2:07 - I Won’t Hesitate

Amelia and Desireé discuss "Masquerade" season 2 episode 7 of The Vampire Diaries. They tangent, they gush, they rant!

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:26

Hello, listener, welcome back to Barbie Bamps, it's Okay to Love Them All podcast. Each week we'll sink our teeth into every episode of Vampire Diaries, relive the drama, romance, twists, and supernatural goodness with us. I'm your host, Amelia, and one time in school, I thought I knew someone from behind, and I instead of yelling their name and saying hey, I ran full force, jumped on their back. They were someone I didn't know. And instead of being like, Oh, I thought maybe you were my friend, I played it like, oh, I'm just is this the way to the office? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

I do that. Um good day, sir.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

Good day.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

I meant no harm.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

Yeah, I just like to jump. I'm just picking up. I can hear you. Okay. Yeah. And this is Desiree, your other host.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Oh, yeah, me. Hey, who's been talking over here? It's Desiree.

unknown 1:15

That's my name.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Um, speaking of my name uh in high school. So we're talking about high school. Um, my name Desiree. If you guys are a group, I don't know if they have the same like jingle. Um, but when we were growing up, like in the 90s um and like the early 2000s, the Tresemme jingle was Tresemme, Tresemme, Ooh Lala. And so people went around going Desiree, Desiree.

SPEAKER_05 1:42

It works. Mine was Amelia, but because of America.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

But it was Amelia. It was Amelia. Instead of America. And it's been how many years later, and I still know.

SPEAKER_05 1:53

Fuck yeah. Yeah, I know. And also I got when I worked some at a restaurant, the kitchen would always say Amelia, Amelia uh. And I was like, that's also my name.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

The amount of nicknames I would get, because I worked in so many restaurants, you guys, and the restaurants I worked in were primarily in L were primarily in LA and Los Angeles, and um most of the kitchen stuff there is Latina, and that's how I learned a lot of like my Spanish, and like I always like we always got along so great because I was like, I grew up in Southern California, like I like we blew like a million eyes' favorite foods, like Mexican food. So like it was tacos.

SPEAKER_05 2:28

Like today, I ate white people food, and I was like, this is bland as shit.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

I'm pretty sure like I had like chips and salsa before I had like a cheeseburger, so I like heavily like I love it. So um, but so that's how I learn a lot of my like Spanish and stuff is a lot of like lechuga, tomate, carne, like I got you. Um you know all the food, I know all the food names. But they'd always give me fun nicknames. Um sometimes I'd be like, what does that mean? Uh but it would be it would all I'd get a lot of like Mamacita. Oh well yeah. Yeah, um it was all the time, but they'd make fun nicknames like around my name. I'm literally drawing a blink right now because it was so many years ago, but I remember like they'd all I'd come in and they'd be like, Oh god, I wish I could remember Johnny Rockets. I worked at a Johnny Rockets and like they had a specific name for me and I can't remember. I can't fill in your memory because I don't know it. But the last one I worked at, uh I'm not gonna say their name, uh, this restaurant, but um they called me princess. Well, and they're like princess, and I'm just like, hi, I am. I'm like, is that nice? Like, I'm not trying I'm like, I'm not a I am the furthest take it. The furthest thing from a princess. I'd be like, yeah, I am, bitch. But they'd be like, Hi, princess, and I'm like, Hey guys, hola. And they'd always play me bad bunny in the morning while I'm like setting up all my catering orders. I they'd be playing like they'd be like, Princess, bad bunny, and I'm like, Oh, I have something to tell you, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_06 3:58

Okay, okay. Is it about Bad Bunny?

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Yeah, okay. I'm claiming it. I love him. Anyways, guys, sorry, tangent, but yeah, that's fun. Tresme, desire, ulava.

SPEAKER_05 4:07

Yeah, Tresume, Tresume, Desiree, Desiree.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Ulala. But let's get into this fucking episode because like let's talk about it. We've live. Yeah, sorry to jump the gun. We live streamed it, you guys, and any of you popped in on that. Thank you so much for watching with us.

SPEAKER_05 4:21

Yeah, it was so 29 people that we had.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Like, I thought it was just gonna be us, honestly. Like this. And if you were watching, I'm so sorry because like half for three quarters, half. Yeah, I thought it was literally just me. Because I had my phone set up to like make sure it was working and stuff. So now it's yeah, because we didn't know what we were doing. So I was watching on my phone live streaming, and for so long I thought I was the only one watching, and I was just like, Well, fuck all. Like, I was like, and then Amelia was like, Well, we have the dude. I was like, Well, it's just me. And she finally was like, No, we have like, I was like, What? And she pointed, I was like, There's 29 people like watching this right now. That's crazy, you guys.

SPEAKER_05 4:56

Well, because at first, too, I was looking at what you were looking at, yeah. With the one with the windows, yeah. There were two windows, and so I was like, Oh, yeah, it is just us, and then I looked over and then I said, Des we have people, and like you didn't register what I had said.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

I was probably just gazing at stuff about it.

SPEAKER_05 5:10

Because I was like, Oh, hi, and I think maybe you thought I was being funny, like saying it to nobody. And I was like, No, like when you were like, What? I was like, We we had this conversation. You thought I was kidding, probably. But no, we had people show, but I thought it was so cool because we had one, we had no idea how to set it up.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

No, she did a great job because I was all Amelia because I knew fuck all. Well, I had to YouTube that shit. I thought, like, that's what I was doing when I was when we got there. I was like, I don't fucking, I don't fucking know. Like, I don't know how to do any of this. She's a fucking genius. She does all of it, she's amazing. But thank you. Um flowers. But yeah, so she got it all set up and I was like, fuck yeah, let's do it. And like it was working on my phone, but uh it was so cool to have like people actually watching it was a trip.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

I know, and someone commented whoever you are.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Or only comment, like they thank you.

SPEAKER_05 5:52

It was yeah, I was just saying that they love listening to our podcast, and it like brought it brings us so much joy that people out there are listening to us and enjoying it.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

That aren't just like our friends and family, right? Like our other supporters, which we obviously love and appreciate. Oh no, but like to know that strangers are like, oh, they're fun. Let's hang out with them and like listen to them and see what they have to say about this stupid show that we all love. Like it's so fun.

SPEAKER_05 6:14

It is, it's really it's a community, and I like to get to share it with everybody and that people showed up. I literally was very surprised that many people were there.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Yeah, and we're gonna do it again, you guys.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

Because I didn't I didn't really know how to announce it on TikTok. I mean, I put it in the story, but the story I don't understand. And then Instagram is crickets, so but TikTok is where we have most of our engagement. And I was like, I don't know how to do this stuff, but people showed up. I didn't, and you also are the one that told me that TikTok lives just show up on your thingy. I didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

I there's so many times when I'm scrolling, and like, guys, if you scroll on TikTok, you know this. I'm sure but you're not on you don't scroll on TikTok.

SPEAKER_05 6:49

Not I try to engage with other accounts because I like to watch their vampire stuff and like talk to people because it's fun. It's the community, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

But like as you guys are scrolling, like you'll see like videos and da da da and then it'll show you lives that are live, and like uh you can click on them and it'll take you straight to the live. And so sometimes when I'm scrolling, I'll accidentally like finger bump and it takes me to the live, I'm like, god damn it, and they'll be like, and it's like someone who has like two people in there one time, one time. Oh, and then you feel bad and you want to stay? Yes, yeah, because like I'm that's like me, that's me energy. And sometimes I don't realize it at first because like I don't realize I'm I'm in it at first, and then I'm like, Oh, I'm trying to, and then I'll try to scroll. I'm like, oh shit, I'm in this live, and then all of a sudden I'll hear hi Desiree, thank you. And I'm like, they knew how to call that they had two people and they called you out by name.

SPEAKER_05 7:36

Yeah, I didn't know how to do that, so everybody that did tune in to our live, I didn't understand how any of it worked.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Oh, yeah, so next time of that until right now. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 7:45

I've never I don't watch lives really. I've watched a couple from but on Instagram, it's you follow the person and then it comes up on your story thing. It's a very different yeah I don't know. I it's all new to me, but we did live stream watch this episode. I had to watch it again because I need my notes.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 8:02

So I've watched it twice and I'm still gonna go, huh? Watch. Yeah, watch.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Well, you guys, this episode was Masquerade Season 2, episode 7. That's where we're at, you guys. It was directed by Charles Beeson. Beeson, Charles Beeson, and it was written by our duo Kevin Williamson and Julie Pleck uh October 28th, 2010.

SPEAKER_05 8:23

Yeah, it's like a Halloween episode almost, and uh it was rated nine stars, a little nine out of ten, because it's a good episode.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

It's a really fun episode, you guys.

SPEAKER_05 8:34

It's one of my top favorite vampire diaries episodes of like out of the eight seasons that are given to us. Yeah. Top five for sure. Probably my second favorite, honestly. It's one of the ones like when I'm like not re-watching the series, but I just want to throw on an episode because it's a comfort show and I can just start anywhere I fucking want to. Sure. It's one of the ones I throw on. I'm like, I'm gonna watch that one.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Not like that, but I do enjoy the show. Yeah. Because pride hours is is I enjoy it very much, but like it's it's more of a comfort show for Amelia, which is awesome, but like it's not one of mine, but I love it. Like, I I like I love how I mean obviously I wouldn't be doing a podcast, but I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_05 9:12

So like girl, I hate it here, but like we're doing it. No, just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Oh my god, could you imagine?

SPEAKER_05 9:17

That would be so comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

I'm I'm showing up here for no money, there's no incentive other than just to hang out with my best friend.

SPEAKER_06 9:24

Like pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Like, that's all we get to do. Like, it sounds like that's pretty easy to me. Um, but no, so like this is one of my favorite ones too from Album. And like I know I'm gonna like go through there's so many to go through, my god.

SPEAKER_05 9:35

There's so many episodes. I was looking at them and I was like, oh, which one? I know my favorite episode is in season three. It's The Reckoning, and I think that's your favorite episode too. Probably, yeah. The Klaus opening the door at the school that moment. We'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

We'll get there. Uh yeah. What's in season three? And I'm we're getting to the point where like not no, we're not. But like we are getting to the point. Like, I'm just excited for like a little foreshadow. I'm just excited for when like I think I sent you the clip um on Instagram. Oh yeah, those moments. I'm so excited for those moments. We're like when okay, obviously we know Damon and Elena date, and so that obviously means Stefan and Elena break up. Um stupid decision. What? Uh give her brand new information! Bring up the bring out the gold man. Um so uh what was I talking about?

SPEAKER_02 10:29

I got to start I got to start.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

The brilliant acting has thrown her off. Um they break up, they break up um, but there's oh god, because you know an Elaina, an Elena, and hello an Elena hater. Love her, but I hate her. Um it's okay. I I get it. Totally weird.

SPEAKER_05 10:46

There are moments. The like the clip you sent me where Stefan, I'm not gonna tell you what the moment is, but Stefan kind of puts her in a place and he's like, okay, excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Fucking got me. As she fucking should. No, yeah, she she's not queen of double standards.

SPEAKER_05 11:00

Oh, 100%. I fucking get it. I I fully agree with you on that. She does double standard a lot.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

I know, but we digress.

SPEAKER_05 11:09

Yes, but anyway, I do that'll be fun. Yeah, I'm excited to but you guys, this episode's really it is, and we're closing in on the Klaus of it all, which next week we get to hear his name for the first time. It's finally happening. We get to meet Elisha. That's what's just happening, but let's get into this episode. Uh, the description hit me is and I wrote this, so you're welcome. They decide on a plan to deal with Catherine at yet another town event. Little do they know, Catherine has more tricks up her sleeve and might just be one step ahead. I just wanted you to know, I added that it's one another town event that they're at, that they were just at a picnic.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 11:46

And now they're in a masquerade ball.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

You know what's funny? As reading that, everything's coming back to me.

unknown 11:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 11:53

Yeah, our live. When was our I don't even know when we did, but it's been a few, yeah. I had to watch it last night um at like 11 30 at night, which if you're a listener, you know that I think that 7 30 is late. Okay. So I was like, oh shit, I haven't done my name count. I need my note, my handy dandy notebook.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Oh my god, I'm excited for the name count because I don't even know.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

You don't, it's a surprise.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

It's a surprise.

SPEAKER_05 12:17

It's a surprise. So it's exciting for everybody.

unknown 12:22

Back. Flip it.

SPEAKER_05 12:23

Yes. I love it. I love it. I like that you're feeling it. I just love that movie. It's a great one.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Yeah. Lemon East Nickets, you guys, the one with Jim Carrey.

SPEAKER_05 12:33

It's the one, yeah, the movie, not the show with uh Neil Patrick. Also, I love that show though.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

They didn't watch it because I'm a purist.

SPEAKER_05 12:40

Oh, did you read the book? Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah. I would love if you were like, no.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Anthony and I read them together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:47

They were fantastic books.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

There's a million of them. Oh, do it.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

From the from the movie. The music I can do.

SPEAKER_06 13:00

It's like straight up terrifying me. Isn't it terrifying?

SPEAKER_01 13:04

That's exactly what the elf sounds like. It's just like my Christopher Walken. It's spot on.

SPEAKER_05 13:08

I feel like part of this episode, I want you to surprise me with a response that is Christopher Walken responding to not right away. Just like throw it in there.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

She's gonna know because she's gonna be like, Whoa, Dword Desiree go.

SPEAKER_05 13:21

Yeah, I'm gonna be like, oh my god, Desiree left.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Christopher Walken? When did you get here?

SPEAKER_05 13:25

Yeah. When? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

So it'll be on TV for it. People would pay money to see my Christopher Walken.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Pay money to have people tell you to do something in a certain accent. You know that Jimmy Fallon skit? Which the front, well, it's not a skit, I guess. It's the the little things that they do on a show. Yeah, yeah. And they'll have like they'll play the song in a certain way. So it was like Ariana Grande had to do one, like uh Jamie Foxx did um Bitch Better Have My Money as opera.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Bitch better have my money.

SPEAKER_05 13:55

Yeah, like I would like things like that. I feel like we just throw it at you, or you know, the accents. Say say this in this accent. It'd be so fun.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

Sometimes I can't do it though. I'm not perfect.

SPEAKER_05 14:05

No, you're not perfect, but you're near perfect.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Perfect. I gotta work it again and again and again.

SPEAKER_05 14:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

23 noon. It was epic. Did you guys tune in? We didn't.

SPEAKER_05 14:21

We cried. Oh, so many, so many tears were shed.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

That song, Milo Tyrus? Fuck you. Love you. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_05 14:30

I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with Miley Tyrus.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Fuck you. God damn it. Fuck you, Miley Tyrus. You ripped me open. No, that's why I was blocking.

SPEAKER_05 14:38

It wasn't like, oh, I have a simple tear falling about my cheek and I'm sad a little. No, sobbing. Sobbing. Sobbing.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Hey you. Are you kidding? The second she said, hey you. And then she said, it's young. I said, fuck you. Fuck you. Shut this down. Shut it down.

SPEAKER_05 14:55

Oh, we're all crying. Everybody's crying.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Shut it down.

SPEAKER_05 14:58

I sent it to my sister.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:00

Who was like, I'm a robot, so it's gonna be fine. I sent it to my sister, and she was like, How dare you? And I was like, Yeah, everybody's collectively crying.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Yeah, thanks, Miley. We love you, but thanks, Miley.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

Anyway, so this episode starts out with uh uh Damon giving Caroline a glass of blood because she's just been through it. She sure this poor girl and Stefan comes in just fucking guns ablaze. Oh my god, but so hot. Okay, sorry. Just he walks into rooms and I forget that that you know I have any amount of brain cells that can process any amount of dialogue or could you imagine if they sat across from us and did a podcast with us if we got them out here? It would be similar to my interview with Hansen. It would be similar to that. I would be cognitive.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Well, I'd be here.

SPEAKER_05 15:48

No, I would be no no no, I would be cognitive. I spoke to them. I said words, I asked my questions, I spoke back and forth, but I was blacked out.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

So like I think I'd ground you with it. I don't remember, I would walk away remembering nothing.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

I did do it solo.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

I would I would ground you here with me. Like we would do and it would be all videotapes, so we'd have it recorded.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

So you can go back and be like, that did happen.

SPEAKER_04 16:10

It did. I know. I would look at Pauline and be like, so your guys' faces, let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

Hashtag Paulinian on Barbie Veils. We'll put you up in an Airbnb, nice Airbnb. We'll put you up in a really nice Airbnb.

SPEAKER_05 16:24

I would pay any amount of money to get that to happen.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

We'll pay for room. We'll pay for room and board. We'll put you in a beautiful Airbnb.

SPEAKER_05 16:31

Or like we don't need your financial non-financial assistance. I'm a really good cook.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah. I will make a better one.

SPEAKER_05 16:43

She will make you a great latte.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

I can't.

SPEAKER_05 16:46

I will make you great food. We will make a dessert together, and we will perform for you.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

And we have your whiskey.

SPEAKER_05 16:53

And we do. We can make you a great cocktail with it. She can make you a great cocktail. Not me, probably. I mean, I made a good cocktail with it. You did.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

It was Christmas time, but like I can knock up something real cool.

SPEAKER_05 17:03

Yeah, you could do something great. See, this is already already coming together.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

You know, with a pool and like a beautiful, you know, come on.

unknown 17:10

Come on.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Hashtag Pawnee and on Barbie Vams. Make it happen 29 of you.

SPEAKER_05 17:15

So he's giving her blood because she's been through it. Okay. And Stefan comes in looking hot as fuck. Okay. Hot as fuck.

unknown 17:25

Fuck.

SPEAKER_05 17:25

And he's like, what's going on? And she's like, well, I just had an encounter with Catherine at the grill because I went to go stalk Matt. She went. Caroline, because she just misses Matt because she had to leave Matt because of her life.

unknown 17:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 17:39

That she didn't ask for because of Catherine, who's taught who's just terrorizing her.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

And Caroline's like, yeah, okay, yeah, cool, Elena, bye. And then she's like, nope, I knew you now. And she's like, uh, Catherine, what do you want?

SPEAKER_04 17:51

Yeah, she's like, what gave me away? My hair or my clothes.

SPEAKER_05 17:55

All all literally all of it, Catherine. And Caroline's only response is like, I knew Elena was home.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Again, you know what? Can I just take a second? You guys listen. Something else I feel like that's always bothered me, and I've I know I've brought this up in previous episodes, is they should know when they're this close to like a million are like four or five feet apart. Like if you're that's how close they were in the scene. Like she should fucking know that just based on like they don't have a heartbeat. Like there's no blood going on.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

Yeah, this part, yeah, it is very confusing because you'd think Damon would be making out with her and noticing, but like I said, maybe he's just like, Oh my god, Elena's kissing me. I don't notice anything else. I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't, and then Stefan, even then, they're laying in bed, he gets Stefan very rarely gets tricked by Catherine, honestly, especially to this point. He gets it pretty quick, uh, but it has nothing to do with the heartbeat. It's like his senses. I don't know what I but they're all their other organs work, they're peeing, they're pooping, they're showering, so they produce oils to have to shower off with odor. What I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Yeah, I'm coo- it's just a question I have.

SPEAKER_05 19:08

I fully agree with that question.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

If I was at a panel, I'd be like, what are your guys' thoughts on the fact that like someone you guys are dead, right? Like you guys are dead. Okay. So, like, what are your thoughts on when you're four feet away from a vampire and four feet away from a human and you can't tell the difference?

SPEAKER_05 19:27

This is my thought, is that and I could be completely off base here. It could be like, I'm millionaire you're such a fucking idiot. But my thought on it is that their hearts beat. They're just dead. I love that. Okay. Do you love it?

SPEAKER_01 19:44

The timing was fantastic.

SPEAKER_05 19:46

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

I loved that.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

You're welcome. They just beat. Like they be peeing, their bladder be working. So why isn't their heart beating? Because their bladder would be dead too. I mean, they're dead. So like why are they peeing?

SPEAKER_06 19:59

But like the eyes that we're doing each other right now. No one can see. Do they're like, We're bridesmating. We're bridesmating.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Our eyes do like their we You know? Yes. And they're time, but they're doing but they can't reproduce. Well, that's because I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. But that's like a stipulation. I know it is a stipulation.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

I know, but I feel like they have like working parts compared to like Twilight vampires who don't. Yeah, I guess. Because they're like dead, dead. They don't sleep. Damon and Stefan sleep. I don't know. I just feel like their bodies work, they're just dead.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

I can see that guess we'll never know. I don't understand it, but it is. I wanna know what their thoughts are.

SPEAKER_05 20:51

I know. I would love maybe it's explained better in the book.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

I just went so talk radio. Oh my god. I don't know why I did that.

SPEAKER_06 20:58

You're on the top. You're still doing it. I don't know why. She's talk radio.

SPEAKER_05 21:04

This is Barbie Vance.

unknown 21:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

So Catherine is obviously still terrorizing Caroline. She's like, I need you to tell Damon and Stefan to meet me at the masquerade and give me the moonstone. And there's something about when Catherine says moonstone that I'm like, why do you make it sound so lame, Catherine?

SPEAKER_01 21:21

I mean, at least it's not moonstone.

SPEAKER_05 21:23

Sten.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Sten.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

Sten.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Moonston. The stun.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

So Stefan's talking to her and he's like, we need to play this smarter than her. Like if we know that this is going down, it's going down.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

For all intents and purposes.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

We gotta be smarter than her. And they honestly play a good game.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

They did a pretty good job. They wanna know what the best force know and they don't want to put up the good fight.

SPEAKER_05 21:48

And Caroline And Caroline makes a solid point. She says, Can't we just like give it to her? So she'll like just leave.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Solid point, Carolina.

SPEAKER_05 21:56

Solid point. I would be probably similar, but like just get whatever who even cares. You guys, who even fucking cares? Just give it to her. And they're like, we can't give her what she wants. And I'm like, or could we?

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Like, what's it gonna do?

SPEAKER_05 22:08

Like, she's terrorizing me.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

I mean, I tell her because like, why is she back? Why does she at this point?

SPEAKER_05 22:13

Well, in this episode she does, but prior, has she killed people yet? I don't think so, right?

SPEAKER_01 22:17

Probably.

SPEAKER_05 22:18

I don't know. Well, I mean, like, maybe the off-screen. I mean, oh well, duh. She killed Caroline.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:27

That's the big one. That's the big one.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Obviously, Caroline.

SPEAKER_05 22:31

Okay. Um, anyway, Damon's like, I'm gonna stake her tonight. And and Stefan's like, no, you're not, and Damon's like, oh, how dare you take away all my fun? And Stefan's like, I'm gonna do it. He wants to kill Catherine. That's that's that one again.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

It's hot.

SPEAKER_05 22:48

It is, and I like that I feel like Damon's a little proud of his brother there. He's like, Oh, you are? Good, which is a funny thing to be proud about.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Do you think Damon would actually pull the trigger? Do you think that's also maybe why Stefan steps up? Because Stefan has the disconnect there. Because he feels like there will be he doesn't love her like Damon does.

SPEAKER_05 23:09

Well, I think, okay, in this episode, so I'm not even jumping ahead, this is just jumping ahead. In the current episode that we're talking about, Stefan has a conversation with Damon when they get to the ball. He's like, You cannot hesitate.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:23

And Damon's like, I'm not gonna hesitate. And he's like, Well, I had the opportunity to kill her, as we remember.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:30

And uh I hesitated. Yeah. And Damon's like, well, I won't. And he's like, Well, you spent a lot of time loving her.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:39

So he makes so he calls out the point you just made, basically, was made by Stefan in the episode and saying he himself hesitated before. So I think he's more prepared to do it because he knows what that felt like and what it would be like, and he experienced it. And he's like, I'm not gonna do that again. I'm actually just gonna, I'm gonna finalize that moment, even though you know, but like it's fine. Um, but but you know, he's he is calling out Damon for being like in love with her for as long as he was because even Damon, like, I'm so sorry, everybody, there's no fucking way you can love someone that much for 145 years of your life and and be dedicated to getting them back and putting your life, your real life on hold, and just kind of whimsically moving around in those years, waiting for her to just be like, oh, you're a bitch to me, I'm over you.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_05 24:36

I'm so sorry, that doesn't happen. No, that doesn't happen. Like, I've we've been heartbroken, both of us have been heartbroken. Yeah, and for less time than 145 years, and they can be assholes, and we're still like, oh, yeah, I I you fucking suck, but I still love you, and that part of it has not gone. Just like meh.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Listen, maybe Catherine, he just realized that Catherine's, he's just not he's had the same cereal for 145 years. Like, he wants a new cereal, you know? You ever have like, you know when you have just like the same breakfast cereal every morning?

SPEAKER_05 25:14

Ah, memories.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Yes, because we're talking about heartbreak.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

We're talking about heartbreak, guys. Okay, that's what we're here for.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Those are innuendos with my previous. Risk my heart out twice. But you still I still love him. That's the crazy thing. I'm not in love with him anymore, but like I love him.

SPEAKER_05 25:34

But those feelings, they they take even the in-love part takes a beat. It does, it hasn't been that long from Damon reconnecting with Catherine to this moment. No, so not at all. And her being like, I will never love you. Yeah, I never loved you. Whatever. I was the other one with Elena. But I never loved you. That didn't happen that long ago for him to just be like, I'm jumping ship, I'm done. I'm good. Thanks. Like, then your love wasn't fucking real, bro. I'm sorry. Yep. Nah. I call nah. So I agree with Stefan and you on the point that yeah, he did, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Hesitation would be because Stefan and I are soulmates. Oh my god. God, I would treat that man so good.

SPEAKER_05 26:15

So good? Way better than Elena.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 26:18

I would be way better than Elena.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

I would just on my knees every time we open the door, I'd be like, yes, dear, what do you need? What do you want for me? Yeah, what do you want? Dinner on my way. It isn't gonna stop myself.

SPEAKER_05 26:33

I know. I know.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Can't get too raunchy.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

No, then this would turn into a whole different thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

It's not what we're doing. It's not what we're doing. You guys use your imagination.

SPEAKER_05 26:43

Yes, yeah. So we, I mean, I'm sure many, many, many of us, whether it be Ian or Paul, amen. Have, you know, been like, whoo!

unknown 26:51

God damn.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

Sup.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

God damn.

SPEAKER_05 26:55

Yeah. Like, what is going on with your faces?

unknown 26:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Disrespectful.

SPEAKER_05 26:59

And I don't it's Stefan's whole personality in this show, though. Like to me.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

That's what like, yes, he's so fucking beautiful, but like his personality of Stefan. No, Stefan just takes me. And it makes me mad because he's not fucking real. And they put these stupid ideas in everybody's heads of what they want and what they should like, and da ba-da. And these men don't exist.

SPEAKER_05 27:24

No, he's not real.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

He's not real.

SPEAKER_05 27:26

I just yelled at my TV the other night, like really late. I was watching, I was watching Once Upon a Time, and I was like, you were written by a woman, Killian Jones. Okay? You're not real. Yep. This is all fake bullshit, and I'm disrespected to myself watching television, by the way. Because Killian Jones is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Like, I just don't understand how hard it is to like you find a woman like like someone like me, who's like, I will literally worship the ground you walk on if you do the same for me. Like, what why wouldn't you want that in someone? Like a partner that's literally gonna be like that's every like, do you know what I mean? Like all encompassing, all enveloping, like obsessive, like you should be that with your partner. Like, I just it sucks when it's not real.

SPEAKER_05 28:12

It's not reciprocated.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Yeah, because it's not real, like that's not real. You're not gonna find that. Like, you might find that at in moments of your relationship. Oh yeah, there's ups and downs.

SPEAKER_05 28:21

Like obviously, as I talk shit about men, I do I love my husband. Of course. Oh my god. He's a good he's a good man.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

He is a really great man.

SPEAKER_05 28:27

Uh but you know, like there's something about a man in a show that is just it's different. It's not reality. It's not because reality sets in in the real world where things that aren't real aren't they're not dealing with it in their their problems, they are different, okay? In the vampire diaries, they're not worried about the petty things we deal with on the day-to-day.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

To be a real human.

SPEAKER_05 28:48

Like, yeah, like they do, like in this show, their issues are more like life or death and things like that. It's like different things. Gestures and like it's very different, but yeah. So, but Stefan's character in all is I I know some people call him boring. I just could not disagree more.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Never.

SPEAKER_05 29:07

I I don't think he's boring. I think he's just but one been through quite a bit. Not that other ones haven't, but he just handles it differently and he's got a lot of heart, yeah, and he's filled with like empathy and love and support, and he is funny and he's quippy, he is. He's just not he's just not a sarcastic douche, which is fine, which I love the sarcastic douche that Damon is. I do, I love him, I adore his wit, makes me giggle, and he's funny and I like him. But um, no, I would if I was in put in a room with two of those guys, yes, I would have a crush on Damon because I do love him, funny guy. Yeah, funny gets me. 100%. But Stefan would be like, I'd be like, I'm gonna marry the fuck out of that guy. Yeah, I'm gonna marry the fuck out of that guy.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 29:49

Anyway, we went on a tangent about Stefan again because we can't control ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

We need to reel it in.

SPEAKER_05 29:55

Reel it in.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

We should have a God. If we had a Stefan count, could you imagine?

SPEAKER_05 29:59

Oh, dude. Dude, we beat her by gazillions, yeah. So many. But we have to, it's different.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

True.

SPEAKER_05 30:10

Okay, so Jenna's home.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Oh, sweet Jenna.

SPEAKER_05 30:13

And she thinks she was compelled to believe that she walked into the knife, which I would love to know how that would happen and penetrate that deeply walking into it, unless someone was holding it, and then she walked up.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

This should have gone more with like a slip and fall type thing.

SPEAKER_05 30:29

Yeah, walking into it feels, but then Matt's sweet, and he's like, I've done that so many times.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Sweet boy.

SPEAKER_05 30:36

He's so sweet. I think he was there. I almost imagine he was there helping bring food because he had a bag and they were like prepping because when we were watching it, you were like, Why is he there? Yeah. And I was like, I think it's a food thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

Yeah, but I'm not, I wasn't, but I think yeah, that's usually what, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:51

Yeah. So and Matt. And and Elena's like, you should stay. We're having food, a lark's coming. Da and Matt's like, I can. I'm gonna be at the ball tonight. And Elena's like, you're going to the ball? And he's like, Yeah, I have to, and she's like, I have some stuff, and she's like, What do you have to do? He's like, I can't talk about it. It's just stuff to do. So funny. Cause I'm like, We're not gonna, we're not gonna question that, Elena. We're not gonna think, why can't you tell me? They're a vampire. Because normally, if there was not a vampire compulsion component, you'd be like, oh, okay, you don't want to talk about it. But when that is a component, you'd think your brain would go to, hmm.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

You know, especially someone you known your whole life and were intimate with. Like you should know, like, hmm. Curious. Be curious. I mean, if you guys don't remember last episode, uh, Catherine compels Matt.

SPEAKER_05 31:46

Yeah, to uh uh basically bait Tyler antagonize, yeah, Tyler until he kills Matt.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Like yeah. To trigger his curse. To trigger his curse because Mason is killed.

SPEAKER_05 31:59

Mason's been killed.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

That's right.

SPEAKER_05 32:02

That's what happened to Mason. Lockwood, his uncle. Anyway, sir, Jeremy's like, we can't just give Catherine what she wants, Elena. Elena's like, we can if we stay safe. The only reason she's doing all of this, Jeremy, is because I didn't listen to her. So now I'm gonna listen to her and everything's gonna be fine. And Jeremy's like, you're naive. And listen, she is. Okay, because obviously it's not, you're not gonna do exactly as she says, and you're gonna be sunshine and rainbows, because you still have no fucking idea why she's here, because we clearly know it has nothing to do with Steph and if she's looking for a fucking moonstone. Anyway. Uh but also Lana's right in the sense of like, Jeremy, could you just could we just take a beat? Jenna just got back from the hospital. Can we take a beat? So I can understand both sides of that coin.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

And Steph and Elena are still broken up, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

I know, poor Stefan.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

I hate it. I hate it. Just poor Stefan.

SPEAKER_05 32:59

Poor Stefan! I don't feel bad for Elena right now. I should I know I should because she's been through quite a bit, but like Jeremy was looking also pretty fine in this episode.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

His hair was Yeah, you were into it. But because he was being so sweet to Bonnie, and like it's like when I see him, like not.

SPEAKER_05 33:13

He made a joke in this that I was like, I would never, I could never.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

I'd be like his character.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Oh, I know. His character bugs the shit out of me, is what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

Um, but like I would be like, no, pass. Okay. Not smash. Not smash. Not smash for me. You smash. I don't know. I don't smash. I pass.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. I will smash that point.

SPEAKER_05 33:38

Why haven't we played Smash or Pass with Vampire Virus characters yet?

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Next time, guys.

SPEAKER_05 33:42

Okay, yeah, yeah. So write them down. Yeah, write them down. Uh so Catherine's been shopping. Scroll out for my own heart. Just buying shit for this ball. I don't know if she and probably Elena clothes. I'd imagine she'd have to stock up on some Elena clothes.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

She'd have to, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:57

Hit a polister, a bacrumpy.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Unless she just stole from Elena's closet.

SPEAKER_05 34:01

She could do that.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Easily.

SPEAKER_05 34:03

She could do that. But she also is a vampire and could just get what she wants, probably without any problem.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

I'm gonna leave this store and you're gonna give me all these clothes and not say a word. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Okay. So cool.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

I would do that so hard.

SPEAKER_05 34:20

Mom Rodeo. Excuse me. I want all of this.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

Big mistake. Huge. Huge. Huge. Excuse me. You work on commission, right? Oh yes.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

That's such a good moment in cinematic history.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

That's one of like um what do people call it? Like a vo a vocal tick or something like that? A vocal stim or something.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

I have no idea. I feel like. We were just talking about this the other day. Were we?

SPEAKER_01 34:50

God, where am I? We were at dinner, I think, or Jackie's birthday.

SPEAKER_05 34:55

I wasn't I wasn't there.

unknown 34:57

Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

Where are you? Where are you? I don't know. Whose birthday? Oh, Jackie. I thought you were talking about your sister.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

No. Okay. I was like, where am I?

SPEAKER_06 35:10

Like, what everybody's gone somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Yes, that's. Hello.

SPEAKER_06 35:17

We were there five nights ago. Excuse me, that just happened.

SPEAKER_05 35:21

Literally. There's two, okay. There are two. And I thought you were talking about your sister. Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

So I understand the confusion. Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05 35:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Uh, but what like a vocal tick?

SPEAKER_05 35:33

Yeah, something like that. That's for you specifically? Or is it like a thing?

SPEAKER_01 35:38

People do it all the time. Like, like you hear something and it'll make you say, like, I'm doing a bad job explaining this.

SPEAKER_05 35:45

No, no, no. I know what you mean. No, I know what you mean. I'm just saying, like, the the pretty woman quote in general is one for you.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Yeah, I go like big or huge, huge all the time. Like someone will be like, God, that's so big. I'll be like, yeah, it's big, huge, huge. Like it's like a tick or something. I don't know. But it's like a stick, but yeah, God, I'm not using my words correctly because I don't know how to explain what it is.

SPEAKER_05 36:06

Doing great.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Thank you for the support. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I'm embarrassed.

SPEAKER_05 36:11

So uh Catherine's got her back turned, and then there's a woman that shows up behind her and is just so annoying to me. Her acting, not even acting, honestly, her acting's fine to me. It was mostly her dialogue and like what she said and how she said it. Like the character choices. Yes, Lucy. Lucy. And Catherine's like, don't sneak up on a vampire. Because Catherine gets all like crazy at her and she's like, oh. And then they're like, oh my god, girl, love you, girl. My god. And I'm like, I can't with you two. Good to see you. And it's like they act like they're friends. Like, are they friends?

SPEAKER_02 36:46

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 36:47

I don't understand their dynamic because throughout the episode you think that they start out as friends and then it ends like they hate each other.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

I don't understand anything about their relationship.

SPEAKER_05 36:55

I need more back story that we never get. And I have questions.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Yeah, it was she was just there for filler.

SPEAKER_05 37:03

I mean, yeah. Yeah. I feel like they had more plans for her. And then they just didn't press the colour. Well we know they don't like those plans. It does feel that way.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

It's been kind of allegedly proven.

SPEAKER_05 37:16

Oh, allegedly, allegedly proven.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Yeah. I mean, I believe them.

SPEAKER_05 37:19

I do too. It's weird though, too, because you'd think why, why, why cast Kat Graham because she's fucking she's great. I love her so much. But like, why do that when the character in the books isn't she's like a redhead, right?

SPEAKER_02 37:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:34

I think. I really I need to brush up on those books. I haven't though. Uh but I think she's a redhead in the books. Maybe that's Caroline. No.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

But what does that have to do with it?

SPEAKER_05 37:48

Well, no, they there's like a white redhead chick in the book, and then they cast a black woman. So it's like if you hate black people, why are you making a main character? You're gonna make it obvious you're racist to everyone. Everyone knows now. Like everyone knows you kind of suck.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:02

A lot. Not kind of, actually, but I just threw kind of because I'm used to saying kind of.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:07

But uh, I don't know. Because then then it feels like they stepped it up with the originals because Marcel, they were like, no, we're not, look.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:14

But I'm like, okay, is it women then?

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:16

Because also the way they paid Elena, like things like Elena. So I'm like, Do you just hate women? Yeah. What's happening?

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:21

I don't know, it's upsetting.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

It's probably because the men were women, it's more of a women-driven show. More women are watching it. Yeah, they're they're crazier for the men. And so like Elena's not important.

SPEAKER_05 38:34

Like, don't get me wrong, I will objectify the men. I'm objectifying them. But like I love the female character. Like Caroline's one of my favorite characters.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

But also, like, you don't have a show without Elena. Like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 38:44

No. And obviously they carry on. So many. She should have the amount she's acting in this episode and every episode that she's both. Like, why isn't she making this?

SPEAKER_01 38:58

The second that she starts having to um play two characters that are getting the same amount of screen time, I would demand the same amount of pay for as you were paying two different actors. So double what she was making, in my opinion. You're playing two fucking different roles, and then moment and then you get and then when you're having to do a short story where she's like for four or five episodes, she's playing someone else, like another version of herself, like you get a bump for those. Like, but to have Catherine throughout this whole thing and her and like this roughly the same amount of screen time.

SPEAKER_05 39:30

No, the work and effort she put into that role too.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

It's not fair. It's not fair. Give Nina Debreath her flowers.

SPEAKER_05 39:36

Oh no, for real. I think all the fans at this point have they're pretty piss all of us are not happy about it, especially with how it all turned out because of it.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

I'm not deep in the sauce like that, but also I don't know, but those are my thoughts straight off the dome.

SPEAKER_05 39:49

Yeah, I'm not deep in the back the behind the scenes stuff um and the politics of it all. There is that book. I really want to get that book about it, but um yeah, I I don't know, it just kind of it does suck how some of it's been said online about Cat Ram and like how she was treated, it like really pisses me out. Like sometimes it like will it'll it'll like mess with me watching it a little bit, which is unfortunate. Yeah, because I don't want it to mess with the magic that is the fantasy world. Yeah, it's not I'm not looking at Cat Ram, I'm looking at Bonnie Bennett, yeah, you know. But like when I that when that enters my mind, it like really bums me out. Yeah. So I'm like, that girl is fucking talented. Look at this, look at all these lines she's remembering in different things.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

The amount of times she makes me cry throughout this series.

SPEAKER_05 40:31

She's fantastic. So I don't like that she was treated poorly. I don't like that she was crying. I don't like any of those things happening.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

I don't want to spoil it.

SPEAKER_05 40:39

No, yeah, no, you just stop yourself. You're like, I'm gonna You know what I'm about to say, dude. I mean nobody does. Nobody that's seen the series does. And they probably already know what you were gonna say if they've seen it. They know and they're also pissed with us.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

It's not fucking fair, guys. It fucking pisses me off. Justice for Cat Graham as well.

SPEAKER_05 40:57

Yeah, no, she's fantastic. She's so uh she seems like the nicest, coolest chick. So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

She's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 41:03

Uh anyway, so Bonnie's going over her spell book, and they're like, that's so good. Good job. We need your help to kill Catherine. I think I think it's it, Carolyn, we're gonna kill Catherine, and then Stefan's like, uh, I'll explain. We're gonna kill Catherine. And Bonnie's like, okay. Yeah, great explanation, Stefan. That helped me so much. Now I know I now know the whole plan. Yep. Good. Yeah. And he's like, but it's fine, everything's gonna be fine. It's just Catherine. We're just killing her. Everything's gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_01 41:34

What an idea. Let's do it. Oh, we got a plan.

unknown 41:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:37

A plan is a good plan. And she it is, and she agrees to help because she also agrees Catherine's gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

Gotta go.

SPEAKER_05 41:43

And Alark's showing them all his like hunter, hunter, his um, not that word. Uh his um is it vampire hunter, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:55

That's the word. Yeah. Okay. Huntsman. What am I thinking of?

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Huntsman?

SPEAKER_06 42:00

No.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

Vampire. What word is my catcher, Wrangler, cowboy, slayer.

SPEAKER_05 42:07

No, I have no idea. I don't know. Maybe it was hunter, and I just I tricked my brain a little bit. I don't know why. Shh. It's okay. Everybody shh. Okay. So he's showing them all his fun gadgets. Like he's got the thing for his bag. Gadgets and gifts.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

Gizmos are plenty. I've got who's it's and what's its color.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

You want dead vampires? I've got 20. I want ma. God, they want to be where the people are. They do. And they just want to see him dancing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Yeah. Aries. What do they call them?

SPEAKER_01 42:42

Oh, oh, oh. Um feet. Yes. Because you know, flipping your flint, you just don't get too far, I'll tell you. My God, no. Because legs, you know, they're just required for you know jumping, dancing. Dancing. Strolling along the uh streets. Uh streets, thank you. Thank you. Streets. No, we could do the whole street. She could just let me go. Yeah. Just let it happen. She's gonna stop me sometimes. I just keep going like a motherfucker now. Petra to the middle voom vroom after they walk, afore they want, avoid a stay out there to sign.

SPEAKER_05 43:19

I know. It's like copyright. That's the little mermaid by Disney.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

Okay, so not remixed by Dizzy D. Dizzy D. I'm a hip hop artist. What? No, I'm not. What the fuck?

unknown 43:34

What?

SPEAKER_01 43:34

What? Stefan's hot. What?

SPEAKER_05 43:37

Yeah, that's all we need to talk about here today, everybody. Uh so he has these stakes, these like little mini ones that go on your forearm that shoot out.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

His gadgets, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:45

Like Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

Like God, this is what I wish we were recording.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

The moment you're gonna be able to do this missed some of this stuff, yeah. Some of the things that they can't visualize. Um, but he's like, see, you wanted to see how to. A vampire guys is how I do it because they're looking at them like uh because they're vampires, and he's like, I have all this stuff to kill you, isn't that so fun? Because I wanted to kill you, Damon, but now we're kind of friends.

SPEAKER_01 44:14

Yeah, it's so true.

SPEAKER_05 44:17

Yeah, so that's their dynamic.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

No question, I just let it happen.

SPEAKER_05 44:21

Just let it happen organically. Organic. It's organic.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Courtney. Oh, it's organic.

SPEAKER_05 44:30

It's organic. So Catherine calls Elena, I believe, dull as dishwater.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Dole as dishwater.

SPEAKER_05 44:37

Right? Dole. Right? I think she called. Dole. Doll. Like a dull. Like your dull.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

She said dull. I was like, dull is dull. I thought you said dull is dishwater.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

Oh, like the pineapple brand. Yeah, and then I was like, Don is dishwater? Like dish soap? And then I was like, yeah. I was like, what is she trying to say? Yeah. Doll.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

Pineapple dish soap. She's as dull as water. Yes. Yes, that is correct.

SPEAKER_05 45:03

And dishwater. Dishwater. She's she's straight. This is pissing me off. She's straightening her iron-curled hair. You iron curled your hair however you did it to curl it because those are clearly stylized curls. They're not natural by getting out of the shower curls. Okay. And now you're flat ironing them. Yep. What a pain in the ass.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

Such a pain in the ass.

SPEAKER_05 45:25

What an unnecessary step that you have taken prior to straightening your hair that's pissing me off. I just want to read another shit out of me.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Even though she can move fast, she can't move time. So like she still has to hold her curl there for a certain amount of time to let it set. Like, so like it's like because I was thinking to us like, well, she can move fast and like get it done faster. I was like, but no, because like to curl it, just because she can move fast doesn't mean like the curl's gonna heat up any faster. Like it's not gonna get in there any quicker.

SPEAKER_05 45:54

No, she's she curled her hair for no fucking reason that morning. She woke up, showered, curled her hair, and then was like, now I'm gonna flat iron it.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

That maybe she sleeps in coillas. Maybe she sleeps in those koillas, you know, like she puts them in, sleeps.

SPEAKER_05 46:11

I could never do that now. When I was a kid, I did it all the time.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Oh my god, I did it all the time. The sponge coilers.

SPEAKER_05 46:16

I would sleep with earrings in, and now I'm like, get off of me.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Tell me about it. I would have I would have the sponge coollas. I'd have them. I'd had the pink, I had the blue, and they were different sizes, you know. And uh I would put them in, and then sometimes they'd be too tight, look like Shirley Temple. Same. Shirley Temple walking through chunky chunky Shirley Temple. Animal crackers in my soup. Sure were. Animal cookies in your soup.

SPEAKER_05 46:38

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

I don't know nothing about no crackers.

SPEAKER_05 46:42

No fucking crackers. Those fucking crackers away from me.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

Animal uh cookies in my soup.

SPEAKER_05 46:46

God, those are good. Those pink and white.

SPEAKER_01 46:49

I think that I think uh I have a school's picture.

SPEAKER_05 46:52

Oh my god, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

Probably like seconds or third grade, not anymore. It's all gone. But I did it at one point.

SPEAKER_05 46:59

I want yeah, well, because like when we were little we could do that. Now I'd be like, this is fucking pissing me out. Get it off my head. They have way cooler things now to do it.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

They do have way easier. My sister Jackie now. Um, she does it all the time and she has fucking beautiful hair. I fucking hate her. Because she never fucking like dyed it and went through like phases like I did. Like, because I was like every color in the sun. She just kept her fucking beautiful. She'll put a few highlights in every now and like low light. She'll play with it a little bit. Like overall dye now. It's been perfect, thick, beautiful, fucking gorgeous hair. And her daughter has the same. I'm so jealous.

SPEAKER_05 47:30

That was giving your Cinderella. Bridesmaids. Your Cinderella. Your beautiful Cinderella. Yeah, not the energy that that was.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

That's just my always being envious of my sister because she's perfect in my love.

SPEAKER_05 47:43

I'm envious of mine all the time, so I understand. I get it. Anyway, they're talking about the moonstone. Her and Lucy, the witch, that is friends, I guess, with and they said I love you. What?

SPEAKER_00 47:56

Did Bonnie touch her yet? No, they haven't meant that.

SPEAKER_05 47:58

We're not even at the masquerade ball yet. That's how long we are taking this episode.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

I'm sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_05 48:03

No, it's fine. They love this. Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

So Oh my god, you're taking me.

unknown 48:12

Not funny.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Yeah, laugh at my pain, bitch. Laugh at my pain. See what she does to me. See how she treats me. I enjoy myself. She'll laugh at my pain. For every episode you didn't hang her tooth with a microphone. It's because I don't have a stand no more. I don't know why I'm so like jersey in like New York tonight. I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_06 48:30

Do it whatever you need to do.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

Um just a feeling, you know.

SPEAKER_06 48:34

Yeah, feel do what you feel.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

If you can't tell, it's one of our late night recording episodes. It is a funny thing. I feel like there's always a different vibe when we're when we're past our bedtime.

SPEAKER_05 48:43

Yeah, it's like real late tonight.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Yeah. It's fine. We're doing it. We're here.

SPEAKER_05 48:47

Okay, we've here. Okay, so the the Lucy, the Lucy Witch is talking to Catherine and is like, I heard I thought that was like a legend. And Catherine's like, no, I've seen it. So and then Lucy's like, why do you want you want me to break the curse, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Everyone knows about some curse now.

SPEAKER_05 49:05

Everybody be knowing the curse. Everybody be knowing curse.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Stephen and Damon be like, we don't know shit. I mean, they've only been around, you know, 145 years.

SPEAKER_05 49:15

Lucy can't have been around that long. Granted, yes, some witches can age slower. They can like witchy themselves younger, sure. Sure. But you're not you're not as old as Catherine.

SPEAKER_01 49:25

But she's also been in it. She knows about being a witch. She knows the story. She knows the laws. She knew she grew up no one's.

SPEAKER_03 49:31

Well, Bonnie's grandma does. She ain't telling her nothing.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

That's true. I'm just saying. I don't know what to say about that guy. She got me there.

SPEAKER_05 49:38

Yeah, but break she wants to break the curse.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

Break it.

SPEAKER_05 49:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

I don't know. I mean, they need that's all we know though. It's some fucking curse that needs to be broken. They don't we don't know any more yet. I mean, we get to know a little bit more in at the end of this episode, but oh my god, what's funny? Let me know on the ha ha.

SPEAKER_06 50:01

Not that funny. My note, my next note makes no fucking sense to me, and I watched it last night.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

It's kind of sad. It's late. It's okay.

SPEAKER_05 50:12

Let me read this note to you. Okay. See if it sparks something in your head.

SPEAKER_01 50:16

Okay. Watch this. Watch this. Hold my beer. I don't have a beer. Hold my beer.

SPEAKER_05 50:21

No beer. Elena back, yes. More than that.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

Oh, I know what it is. I said it out loud.

SPEAKER_05 50:27

It happened. Yes. Stefan is talking about wanting Elena back.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 50:34

Because he's like talking to Bonnie. Because he's because Bonnie's like, Are you doing all this to get Elena back? Stefan's like, well, yeah, I want Elena back, but this is more than that. She's hurt Jenna now. It's we've got to take care of business.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:46

We gotta trap her. We gotta isolate her. Because she's not, she can't, we can't do this in front of everybody at the fucking ball. She's trying to do it publicly. We gotta isolate that bitch. That's what that note was for.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

Figured it out.

SPEAKER_05 50:56

Look at that. Look at this. This is why I have them, you know?

SPEAKER_01 50:58

I got you.

SPEAKER_05 50:59

I was looking at it like, what the fuck does that even mean?

SPEAKER_01 51:02

You got there.

SPEAKER_05 51:03

I did it. Proud of you. I did it. Guys, I did it. I need better notes. That was fine. You got there? I did.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

It was late.

SPEAKER_05 51:11

You know. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Get out to this fucking ball.

SPEAKER_05 51:15

Yeah, I know. Um are we there yet? Yeah, Carol. Carol is uh is being really sweet with Tyler. I really like their mother-son.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

I liked Tyler in this episode.

SPEAKER_05 51:29

No, I do. He's nice, he's fine.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

He has moments.

SPEAKER_05 51:32

But she's telling him to stay out of her father's office. His her. Why do I keep wanting to call Tyler? When I said mother-son, I kept wanting to say mother-daughter. And now I'm saying in her father's office. It's Tyler's a man. He's a man.

SPEAKER_01 51:44

It's her husband's, but yes, his father.

SPEAKER_05 51:48

Jesus. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

His father's office.

SPEAKER_05 51:51

Who am I?

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Amelia. Okay. That's who you are.

SPEAKER_05 51:54

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

I'm here.

SPEAKER_05 51:56

Anyway, they have a cute little moment because he like compliments her and she's like, oh my god, I can fall over. Like you complimenting me. And I'm like, yeah, be nice to your mom, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

Yeah. Tyler.

SPEAKER_05 52:06

So mean to her lately. Anyway, they talk about Mason and she's like, I doubt he's coming back.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Definitely. She's right.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

She's 100% right, but she doesn't know why and she's right, but she's like 100% right.

SPEAKER_01 52:18

Yeah, he's 100% not coming back.

SPEAKER_05 52:19

He's unalived.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Uh by mission.

SPEAKER_05 52:23

Yeah, so but apparently he's like flighty, very different than his brother, which was her husband, Tyler's father. And um it's unlikely that he would come back anyway. I guess that's like his personality. But she doesn't know what Tyler knows. So Tyler would be like, well, why would he drop all this stuff not? Oh, he just wanted the moonstone and he's about cool. Abandonment. And she does say it's natural to feel abandoned, but she doesn't want him to um well, because abandoned like by Mason and by his dad dying. Because like sometimes you can feel abandonment, even though it's not traditional abandonment. Yeah. But she doesn't want him to feel alone. And it was really a sweet moment between Tyler and Carol. And I was like, Carol, I love you.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

It was a nice moment. Tyler was sweet.

SPEAKER_05 53:18

Yeah, I liked it. And uh so Catherine and Lucy arrive at the mall. So we're officially, I mean, we were with Carol and Tyler, but we're at the ball now. They were in the upstairs. Yeah. We're officially the party's rocking.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

And the luck would manage.

SPEAKER_05 53:33

Catherine's got her little like black dress lace, kind of like simple, but very 2010, but but simple enough that I'm not mad at it because a lot of the fashion at this ball, I was not into it. I was like, nope, hate all of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

And Elena's not supposed to be there, right?

SPEAKER_05 53:48

No, Elena's not supposed to be there. It's just Catherine. Yeah. Elena is supposed to be kept at home and watched over by Aloric.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

Yep. And everyone else is uh headed to the party.

SPEAKER_05 53:59

Headed to the party. Catherine's got her little pomp in her hair.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

The little like the bumpet.

SPEAKER_05 54:05

The bumpet. And it was very cute on her, I gotta say. She can pull I Nina Dubrev can pull a fucking anything.

SPEAKER_04 54:11

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:12

She just looks like that.

SPEAKER_04 54:13

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:14

So I'm like, oh, that's nice for you. Super fucking cool. You look great.

SPEAKER_01 54:18

You're so fucking pretty, you bitch.

SPEAKER_05 54:20

Sweetie, tall, olive skin, slender. You're so gorgeous.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Glamous on you, bitch.

SPEAKER_05 54:27

She runs into Matt and she's so into him. And her energy while being into men is like Desiree. It was like she was like, she was like, I could just all night. Okay. Yeah. Take it back. Reeling it in. Yep. We're not gonna go. We're not doing that. But aren't you dashing? It was very funny. Um, but she's reminding him what he's there for. And he's like, I'm gonna make sure Tyler kills me. Don't you worry, sis.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 54:53

That's how the exact conversation went.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

That's exactly how it went, actually.

SPEAKER_05 54:57

So I know.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

Line for line.

SPEAKER_05 55:01

Line for line. Okay, so Matt's got a job. And uh this is when we do see Stefan and Damon looking fire in their suits with their thin ties. I love a fucking thin tie. I hate a fat tie, I love a thin tie and a bow tie. That's pretty much all. I hate fat ties.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

I am one in 100% agreeance with you. I hate them.

SPEAKER_05 55:21

No, I hate them. I'm like, oh, are you going to a really shitty prom? No. Thin tie only. That's the only tie I no tie. Or no tie. No tie is fine. Unless it's a tuxedo.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

I'll I'll just stop that. A tuxedo with a bow tie. I love it. That. Yep. And I don't know what the what are they fucking called? I don't know. I forget. It's like where their chest is. It's like a nice breastplate.

SPEAKER_06 55:53

Breast plate. That's definitely what you're thinking. I think I think you nailed it.

SPEAKER_01 55:57

You got there.

SPEAKER_06 55:58

It's a breastplate.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

No fat ties.

SPEAKER_05 56:01

No fat ties. That's all I was thinking. But they look fantastic, and that's where they're having the conversation where Stefan's like, please do not hesitate. Because I hesitated, so you better not hesitate. Oh my god, they look so good.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

It's so hot. It's disrespectful. I'm surprised the TV didn't burn up. How is this footage real? How are they fucking real? Guys, I'm not. I can't stress enough that I'm so serious. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 56:24

That I am so serious right now.

SPEAKER_00 56:25

I am so like what the fuck? How do people look real? How do people look like that? I don't know. How are they real?

SPEAKER_05 56:32

I don't know. When they everyone was being cast for this show, they all has sit down. I've been like, is everybody hot? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 56:40

No, it's outrageous.

SPEAKER_01 56:42

It's so disrespectful. Like, throw in some ugly people, please. Make it more realistic.

SPEAKER_05 56:48

Throw in some regs.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

Like, I know we're in a fantasy world, but like, can at least some people not be super hot?

SPEAKER_05 56:54

No, it's because even no, like Desiree, the thing is they have full hair and makeup, and they have perfect, they're getting perfected. Even when they're not. I didn't want to say perfected. I wanted to say perfected. I want you to know I did that on purpose.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

I've seen their Instagram and stuff where they look fucking normal and shit. Like, they're still fucking hot. Like, disrespectful. It's money. I mean, yeah, you can buy a beauty nowadays.

SPEAKER_05 57:18

But I yeah, no. I no, I understand. I understand. But there are people in the show that I'm not like personally, like they're objectively good looking, but I'm just not personally attracted to them.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

No, that's just.

SPEAKER_05 57:27

Or even not objectively. I don't I have a hard time personally calling people ugly.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

I don't. I know.

SPEAKER_05 57:36

Uh I have a hard time with it because I'm like, well, you know, it's subjective, I guess. But there are to me, sometimes there is objective beauty, like Chris Emsworth. Like, is anybody saying that guy's unlook unlookable? Unlickable? Uh, you know? So, like, you know, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 57:52

So I mean, it's the same thing you could go with ugly. Like, I could think someone's ugly and someone like someone and in someone else's eyes are the most bright beautiful person in the world. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, for them. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, to me, I'm not into you. Dude, I know so many people think I'm ugly, so I don't give a fuck. Like, you're so not, though. It's very nice to you so. You couldn't be farther from them.

SPEAKER_05 58:11

No, I've seen your face. Uh, I'm looking at it right now.

SPEAKER_01 58:15

And it's so sweet. I was like, get yourself a best friend with a hype girl like that.

SPEAKER_05 58:20

I just don't lie either, so you know it's true because I can't tell lies. I'm really bad at it. It's like shocking.

SPEAKER_01 58:24

Also, like ugly people kind of like gather together.

SPEAKER_06 58:28

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 58:30

Like, if you notice, like recently, like I love where this rant's going. The ugliest people physically you know where I'm going. The ugliest people physically in your life are no longer in your life.

SPEAKER_05 58:44

This is where I am hiding on her table.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

Hot people hang out with hot people.

SPEAKER_05 58:48

I thought they were hot.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

Amelia.

SPEAKER_05 58:51

Well, specifically one of them for real, though, to me.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

I could see one. I could give one. Yeah, you know, which we're talking about. Obviously, you obviously um one could have been if she tried. And the other one, sorry, no luck, God cursed you.

SPEAKER_05 59:08

This is getting really Regina George.

SPEAKER_01 59:10

It's just the truth. These are bitches. They were really there.

SPEAKER_05 59:14

Just so everyone knows, some backstory. I had friends for a long time, friendly friends that were very close to me, like family friends, you know, like your tight, like your sisterhood friends. And they hurt me really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really badly. Yeah. In a really fucked up way. And uh Dez is just having my back really hard right now. That's what's happening. Just everyone has some context.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

Because these see you next Tuesdays can uh God, I hope I run into them one day. So bad that like they because like we were all in this friend group, right? But like they were closer. When this happened, all of them blocked me, unfollowed me, did everything that like you do on these nowadays um before even anything really I knew any part of the story of what was going on, because I knew I would side with Amelia because A, because Amelia's right, she I would tell her if she was in the wrong and anything.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:09

That's why I reached out, as I wanted to know. Like I literally was like, am I doing something wrong here? Because I don't want to be the problem. I never want to be the problem. If I'm doing something to upset someone, that's what I care about. I want to know because I don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:21

That's obviously never my intention. In I was gonna say intent, and then I went to intention, and then I just stopped.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:27

The intention is dirty bitches, and they can go to hell. But they're ugly, so like that's a like I know I guess some people don't think they are, and they're wrong. But like those are people that it's just I'm just saying, hot people hang out with hot people, and I think your soul signs why talking hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:49

Uh I think your soul shines through something, like we talked about earlier with Stefan. Like, yeah, one of the reasons we are so attracted to him, Paul Wesley specifically, is because his character is something we are so attracted to. So it makes his outer beauty match his inner beauty, 100%, and then we become obsessed. So I think inner beauty does matter in in these scenarios.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

Oh, and certainly, but in the one that uh we were just talking about five seconds ago about these dumb bitches, they're objectively ugly. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:18

Oh my god, I'm just okay. Sir, Matt is trying to turn up Matt is trying to turn this party up.

unknown 1:01:25

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:26

So he's getting shots in everybody because they're teenagers, and they're like, let's take shot. Woo! Woo! We're teenagers and we can do it. And it's Amy and Sarah and Jeremy and Tyler, the same crew from their little house.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

Oh my god, you got it.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:38

Their little their little clam bait.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

The girls are back.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:41

The girls are back.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

That's our take on the boys are back from high school musical three.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

Thank you. Yes, thank you very much. And they're gonna dance. They're gonna go dance at the party.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:50

Clearly, Corbin Bloom.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:52

Oh my god, I'm Zach Efron. I love that I'm Zach Efron.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

I mean, I feel like it's obvious.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:56

Thank you. I feel like it's obviously. I didn't think it was obvious. I feel like you're the talented one, and I'm, you know, awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

I know, but like Corbin Bloom is like talented.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:04

He's very talented.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

But I mean like, don't discredit. Like, I just feel like Zach Efron's the star. I feel like that's you. Oh my god, you're so nice. You're definitely hotter than me. That's a again, an objective fact. So, oh bitch, I will fight you. I will fucking punch your perfect face. Okay. And knock your beautiful teeth out. Ugh, I'll be so fucking I'll fight you.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:25

I'll fight, I'll fight you and lose. And lose.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

Sit on you.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:30

Oh my god. This shit is getting crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

God, if I'm not fat anymore, I'm gonna lose my edge.

unknown 1:02:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:40

Yeah. I'm gonna lose my edge if I'm not fat anymore. I can't just drop on people anymore. They're gonna be like, I can lift you off now. I'm gonna be like, damn it. Yeah, what are you gonna do? You gotta learn a new skill. It's gonna be weird because the world's gonna treat me differently.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:53

Yeah. Probably because the world's gross and it shouldn't treat people differently. Anyways, guys. So back to um the vampire diaries, I swear. We are gonna get through this.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

We're in the fucking masquerade already. Shit's about to go down, you guys.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:07

The most part of the episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

Shit's about to go down, you got it.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:12

We're building the suspense because shit's about to go down.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

Speedrun it, let's go. Because shit's about to go down. Let's get let's speedrun it. Shit's about to go down. I'm excited now. Shit's about to go down.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:21

Okay, so Bonnie's talking about how she's been looking into the good spells, and Jeremy's like, it's so cool that you're a witch. And she's like, No, haven't you heard about my kind and what happens to us? We bleed from the nose. No, she doesn't say that, but she's like, we die, essentially, yeah because of our powers and what we go through, and then we get involved in all this shit. Like it's not glamorous like you think it is, Jeremy. And she just wants to stay out of it, but she doesn't know how to stay out of it. So that's what her and Jeremy are having some moments in this episode. They're so it's your best friend is a vampire, your other best friend's dating a vampire and is a doppelganger. Like, how are you gonna stay out of it?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

And you're a witch? Come in.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:57

Come in, come in, help where you can help, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:01

I'm over using my powers for good to help protect my friends. Get the fuck out of here. Don't treat me like that. I'm gonna fucking step up in the way.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:07

Yeah, you would.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

I would get involved. That's the gryffindor in me. I'd be like, I got it, guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:12

Yeah, you are a gryffindor for sure. I'm a Hubblepuff. So I would too. I'm loyal.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:16

Yeah, but I would be like, you stay here and guard. I'm in the one that's gonna run into the burning building. And you're gonna be like, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:22

I'd be like, great, I'm scared.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:25

But I'll stand here because I'm being brave.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:28

Yeah. Look, well, the gryffindors are the like bravery and gallant knights, and the Hubblepuffs are like, we're loyal, friendship.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:34

That's what I'm saying. So stay in guard, let me know if someone's coming, I'm running into the burning building. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'll do that for you, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

Yeah, free.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

I don't have to go in though. That's all you.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:43

That's you, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

Yeah, exactly. So you just let me know when the enemy's coming. I got you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:48

I got you.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:49

Hang on, chills. The multiplying. We are never gonna get through this. That was it. Okay, so Jenna and Elena were at the house, and Jeremy went to the party. And Elena's like, Why the fuck is everybody going to this party? Like Alaric, Jeremy hates these events. What do you mean he went to the party willingly with me not going? What the fuck is going on? And Alaric's like, I don't know, me just trying to hang out and Stefan. And she's like, Stefan went to the party without me? Oh my god. He didn't do that stuff without me.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:20

And so she's she's calling his bluff a little bit. He's like, what? She's like, okay. Oh my god. And she's like, okay, fine, then I'll just you don't mind if I go to the party then. He's like, he calls her bluff.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:31

She calls his bluff. I know how to structure my sentences today. For fuck's sake. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

For fuck's sake. What's going on? You haven't spent so much time around, Clive. Oh my god. For fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:46

Oh my god. Who am I today?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:50

Anyway, Bonnie is like, guys, the rumens are any. You can trap Catherine now.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:55

Yeah, that's the plan to trap Catherine in this bedroom, guys. Because they're trying to kill her and take her down. And then Bonnie's walking.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:02

She's walking. She's in this ball. Yeah. It's a masquerade ball. She's walking with a really cool mask with like all these colors on it. And she's like, I feel something. And she's like, what am I feeling? And then she touches and then they turn around and it's Lucy, another witch. And then she's like, Do I know you? And she's like, no. I know no one. Because that's a normal sentence. Someone comes up to me at a party. I know you. I know no one.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

I'm a plus one.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:27

What a random. You could just be like, I'm I came with somebody. I'm sorry, I don't know you.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:33

Ask me, do you do I know you? Do I know you? Oh, actually, um, probably not. I came, I'm here as a plus one, so I kind of really don't know anybody, actually.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:43

Yeah, not I know no one. What a weird way to say that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

What would you say?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:48

I'm getting some shades similar to you. It would have been that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:52

Do I know you?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:53

I came with somebody. I really don't know anybody. I just came with a friend. They brought me along.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

Good. See? Normal.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:00

Not weird. Not suspicious. No sus. Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:07

Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:10

That's what that was.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

No more.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:13

And she was. She was full suspicious.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:15

I know no one.

unknown 1:07:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:17

Do you? I don't believe you at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:20

Be like, you clearly know you're plus one, so who the you came here as a plus one, so you know someone. Who the fuck do you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:27

I know. Well then who do you who's you who are you plus one? Yeah, who are you the plus one of?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:32

Um lady.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:34

Ma'am. Um so I wrote in my notes here that this is this is the part where Catherine and Stefan show up to the ball. Well, they see each other, and I just wrote fuck. And that fuck I want you to know is referring to how fucking fire Stefan looks. What's happening? And that head over heels song is playing.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:52

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:52

And I'm like, shit, how's that?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:55

It's stupid.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:56

Oh my god. And then she's like, Stefan, let's dance. He's like, no. And she's like, well, then who should I kill? As she eats a strawberry all sexually. And I'm like, bitch, how do you think this is gonna win over Stefan? You're sitting over here saying you love him, you want him back, you're here for him, and then you're doing things he clearly would never be into. Like he's not gonna want to get back with you when you're threatening to kill people to get him to dance with you. You could just be a better person, and maybe Stefan would be like, hey, maybe I could look at you again in a certain kind of way. But no, you have no game, Catherine. Yeah, no game.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:28

I feel like no getting Stefan game. I feel like part of her has to know, like she's like, give like that's that's like he ha like she knows that he knows kind of a thing. Like, so she's just like playing along because she thinks it's fun, like, but it's not real. She knows it's not real, and she knows he knows it's not real because she knows. They don't know that we know that we know that they know.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:46

Yeah, yeah, I know. It's but yeah, so they're dancing, and he's just like you know, they talk about Jenna, and she asks for the moonstone, obviously, because that's why she's there, that's why they're meaning. Yeah, and he's just like, and it's not on me, so you'll have to like come with me. And she's like, No, go get it. And he's like, No. She's like and then Amy walks over. Yeah, and Amy's like, Oh my god, Elena, you look so good. I love your necklace. And then Catherine just goes behind her and paralyzes her at first. Yeah. Which Catherine, how do you know exactly the spot to paralyze someone? Like, way to just know the body.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:27

I feel like after all those five fucking almost 500 years, you learned some shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:31

Because yeah, fuck. I I alright. You a doctor over here, bitch, in the bones and the way that everything works. Okay, Catherine. Jesus. Yeah. And then she kills her. It's really sad.

unknown 1:09:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:45

I'm gonna jump ahead that this is my least favorite part of the episode. It like bummed me out hard. Like I was like, this poor girl just came over to compliment Elena, who's not Elena, and gets murdered for no reason. Bless you. Thank you. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:04

Yeah, poor, poor, what's her face? Amy. Amy.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:07

Yeah, and it's sad. Yeah, because Stefan's just standing there with her and he's just like, oh, great.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:14

He's got a dead body now.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:16

This is great.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:17

Poor young girl's just dead.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:18

And then Catherine walks away. Like, better get me that moonstone. Tick, tack it, tack-it-tick.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:22

I mean, it's kinda badass to her, but like, fuck shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:25

Meanwhile.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

She just killed a poor girl.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:26

Oh, I know. It's so fucking sad. Meanwhile, Elena's sneaking out to go to bed. I love how fucking obvious it is. I'm going to bed, turns and then looks, and then they're and then she just sneaks out the door, like sofa. No one peripheral, no one heard any. Just all right, she's out.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:42

Nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:42

Way to suck at keeping track of the teenager.

unknown 1:10:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:47

She's five years old. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:50

Seriously.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:50

How are you not keeping but come on, Alaric? Okay, she's obviously suspiciously.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:56

You think you'd be better at being a teacher. Like you should be like look on the lookout for fucking.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:00

Be be observant. Like she's obviously suspicious. She wanted to go earlier. She's calling things out. She's Elena. Have you met her? Seriously. She's gonna try and go.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:06

She's gonna fucking be a martyr and fucking go.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:10

And so it ends up working out that she goes. No, it's important that she it's important, but I, you know, it's a good thing that she snuck out. I just think Alaric is not doing his job.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:19

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:20

Okay. So um Stefan hid Amy in his trunk for now, the body, because he can't just leave her out. He has to he has to figure out how to take care of Catherine. Still they have to they have to go through the the rounds that they're doing. Yeah. And he's like, we gotta call this off. He's like, he's he's not happy that someone's died. Like he's like, this is a person that's died for this cause. Sweet baby's defendant. No, he's fantastic. And and Damon just calls her collateral damage. And and Stefan is like, uh no, someone died.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:55

And uh and and and Damon has a point. He's like, well, tonight we have to end this. And Stefan agrees. He does inevitably say, Yeah, we we need to do it. And he's like, I've got your and Damon's very brotherly. He's like, I've got your back, like we're gonna do this together, kind of thing. Like they c Damon has a point, yes, but I still don't like that he calls a human being collateral damage for Catherine just killing people.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:18

Yeah, I really it's really gross, gross, gross, gross, gross, gross.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:20

That's the thing about Damon is he's like, we have to do what we have to do. Um, I see the end of the road here to A to B, and he doesn't care about anything in between it, whereas Stefan does, and that's why I like Stefan so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

Yep. But I agree. I ugly.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:38

Yeah, I mean, you know? And then this is the wait, okay, yeah. Um Jeremy and Bonnie are having another moment, and he's just like, oh my god, would you like I would like hocus pocus like and get all A's and like ace all my tests, and like Bonnie's like, okay, like I don't do that, I don't know that stuff. And he's like, or like I'd learn like a sex spell. And I'm like, oh my god, you're such a teenage boy right now. And I threw up in my mouth. It threw up in my mouth.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:05

I just like I can't I just like if a boy said that to me, I don't like at that age, I just like at any age, but like at that age especially, like I'd be like, what? Ew. What do you mean? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:25

What do you mean? What what a kind of what kind of sex Jeremy? What what an what an uh it's so it's giving inexperienced, it's giving. I've never been with a woman. Obviously, you should you're 16, like it's fine, like you're little, like obviously. Like if he was 30 and said that then like I can't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:44

It was like in his brain, he was like, This is probably gonna be cool to say. So cool. And then if she was followed up and be like, what do you mean? He would have been like uh fuck. I didn't think she was gonna get that for. I don't know what anything about sex.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:56

Uh yeah, it's like so gross. I'm like, ugh, I can't. That was such a huge turnoff. It's honestly contender for one of my least favorite parts of the episode because I'm like, vomit on you. I vomit in my mouth, Jeremy. Ick. Anyways, it probably doesn't bother that many people, but it bothers me. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Then he says stone. So I'm just not I'm not into Jeremy. I'm sorry to everybody that is. Uh but he asks Bonnie to dance. And she's like, she kind of like just like laughs at him, like, what? No. Like you're like, yeah, but it's uh to me, I get it because I've had friends with little brothers where like I'm not, I'm like, you're the little brother. Like, even if it's a year younger, like your little brother. Yeah, I was like, you're a little brother. Like I didn't, I'm just that's how my mind works, so I can understand it being like, ew, what? You're my friend's younger brother. Get away. No. So I could do that. No. Did your backcrack? Yeah. Was it great? It was awesome. That's so good. I'm so glad it happened for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:56

Um like Elf, did you hear that?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:59

Did you hear that? Anyway, so uh it with her laughing and saying no, and then she corrects it to be nicer about it. Uh, she gets a text from David that it's time time time to do it now. Time to go. Time to do. Time to do the plans of action.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:14

Let's do it, fellas.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:16

And then you see Lucy approach Catherine and she's pissed. Another witch is there. She's like, You didn't tell me another witch would be involved.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

Nope.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:24

And Catherine's like, yeah, whatever. Do what I said. You owe me a favor. So we're learning at this point that she owes her a favor. But I'm like, I thought you were friends and you loved each other because you said I love you, girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:36

You know, she that means they're just like friends. But when you say I love you, you mean it just as a friend.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:43

Well, yeah, obviously, that's all it ever meant, has ever meant. Um, so Jeremy goes up to Catherine, and I want you to know a funny story. Last night, I was watching this episode for my notes. And during this scene, my iPad kind of sits by my TV and he says the words about his sister.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:04

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:05

And my iPad decided at like 11:30 at night to call my sister.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:10

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:11

Siri was like calling big sister. And I was like, no, it's doing it now. No, don't do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:18

No, stop. Stop. Thank you. Oh my God. My phone started to do it. Just trying to tell a story. Stop eavesdropping. Robot.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:30

Okay, so uh, yeah, so it's like I had to get up, go over there, and be like, hey, and she was like, oh my god, are you okay? Like concerned because it's so late. Right. And I was like, nope, just just my TV was talking and my phone decided to give you a shout-out. Uh so anyway, I thought I thought it was hilarious. So Jeremy approaches Catherine and he's like, Can I talk to you about my really quick? Uh because he has to make the person, the Catherine, Lucy, uh, that it's his sister. Um, but he knows obviously then it's Catherine. Obviously, we know that he knows that everybody knows. And um, he's just like, they want to meet you by the lake, the Salvatore brothers. The reference who he's talking about. So. And he's like, and they're just like, oh my god, they sent you. And he's like, Well, they know I'm not afraid of you. And I'm like, Jeremy, could you be more stupid?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:20

Well, he has his rings, but he's like, I'm not afraid.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:23

Yeah, and she's like, Oh, how's John? Did they sew his fingers back on? Because the point here, Jeremy, is the ring can come off. Exactly. If she can take on two vampires and win, what are you thinking you're gonna do? You're not afraid, you 16-year-old boy. Shut up.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:45

So dumb.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:45

Not into it, not into that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

It's very much though, giving like that's very Jeremy, like, I'm gonna be the big man, like I'm gonna be, I'm not afraid of improvement masculinity type shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:57

Yeah, and that's not hot to me. Him being like, I am afraid of Catherine and owning the fact that she's a big tough fucking vampire chick is hotter to me than I'm not afraid of you. You should be afraid of her. She's fucking scary as shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

Like, if you're putting on a front, I'm here for it. Like, you can pretend like you I like if that's your plan, like I'm not afraid of you, and even though like, but give me some like something offsides of being like, Alright, I can do this. Like, she's fucking terrified. Like, you got this, Jeremy. Like, just be brave or whatever. Give me something, but like be brave, just breathe. Something, yeah. Like, something in that context of being of showing him that he's at least but no, he's like, I'm just big and scary, and I'm brave.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:34

Yeah, and I'm not into that.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:35

Me either.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:37

So, you know, that is what it is. So she walks off because she's like, These men be trying to lure me to the to the lake.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

She's like, hell no, bitch. Hell no.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:47

Hell to the no, no, no. Um so Matt and Caroline have a look. A look. They're sharing a look because Jeremy and Matt are sneaking off somewhere. Yeah. So we see them disappearing to somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:02

And Caroline's just like longingly sad, and it's sad. I feel bad for Caroline. And then she gets a text from Jeremy that it's her turn, so she gets to talk to Catherine. So she kind of lures Catherine in a way, I don't know how she does it. She like goes towards like the bathroom or something, and Catherine gets up to her and like pins her, and she's like, What is going on? Why the Salvatore brothers want to take me to the lake? And like, what's going on? And she's like, I don't know what you're talking about, all sweet and adorable and innocent, because she's so cute. Caroline, and leave her alone. And uh Catherine's like, What do you know? And she's just like strangling her basically. And and then Caroline is she's like, Where's the moonstone? And she's like, It's with Bonnie, and they're trying to kill you. And she's like, I kind of figured they were trying to kill me. So, like, where's the moonstone? She's like, It's with Bonnie upstairs, and she's crying. And and then Bonnie, you know, isn't upstairs. So she leads her upstairs, and Carol Catherine goes in the room, she's like, Where, well, where? And then Caroline like starts laughing. She's like, Oh my god, I did it.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:56

Yeah, I did you told you.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:58

I didn't think I could do it, but I did it. She's so cute, she's adorable about it. She's like, Okay, bye, Catherine. And I loved it.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:04

And she goes, Leave, and Catherine can't leave. She's trapped in the room, guys. Bonnie put a spell.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:08

Yeah, she's like, like the tomb spell. She did the the mimicking of the tomb spell.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:13

On the bedroom.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:14

On the bedroom. So the vampires cannot leave the room. And Stefan enters looking fine as fuck in his suit, holding a steak, looking fine as fuck. I know I said that twice, but it could have been said more than that. That's how hot he was.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:26

Not vampires can't leave the room, just Catherine.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:28

I think vampires.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:29

Caroline left. No, she didn't enter the room.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:32

Oh, she didn't?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:32

Mm-mm. She stopped at the doorway. Oh, I thought she was already in the room. Oh, I thought she was in the room with her.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:38

The spell is. Oh, my bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:39

I'll take it back.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:40

Yeah, I'm pretty sure, because I don't know how she would isolate. Because she's not that strong of a witch yet. Bonnie's Bonnie's new. She's she's still there.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:48

I thought she was in the room. I didn't realize she was stopped at the doorway.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:50

Yeah, she stopped at the doorway. But he's holding the stake and he's looking full and then Catherine's like, oh my god, you don't really think you're gonna do that, do you? And he's like, maybe I'm not, but he is. And Damon comes up with that like freaking rocket launcher of stakes and gets her in the back.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:03

Yeah. Cut to.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:06

Uh yeah, cut to Elena being fully she's at the party, she approached Jeremy. I don't know if we talked about that. She's like, What's going on, Jeremy? And then they're with, she's with Bonnie and Jeremy, and they're talking about how like she doesn't want anything to happen to the people she loves and cares about. And they're like, it's not just about you, she's hurt other people. She's got to get taken out. Like it's not just you, Elena, it's not all about you.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:28

God, say it louder.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:30

And then while they're talking, she gets uh her back, she like goes, she screams like and then there's blood all over her shoulder back area where Catherine got hit by the stake.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

So anything that's happening to Catherine is uh happening to Elena.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:43

Yeah, and Bonnie's like realizing, oh my god, they're linked. They're fucking linked. Jeremy, go tell them to fucking stop because everything that they're doing is happening to her. So he yeah, he runs.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:52

Meanwhile, they get a few more in on her. So Elena's.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:55

Oh yeah, they're fully brawling, and it's so fun to watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:57

Like she is taken on these and Elena's getting every brunt of it as well. Anything that happens to Catherine, she's getting so any stab, poke, knockout, she's getting.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:08

Yeah. Yep. She's getting beat up. It's a little human that would hurt a lot more than it's hurting Catherine for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:14

So she's she's getting the shit kick out of her for sure, and it's very sad. Um, it is very sad. Yeah. And Catherine, though, meanwhile, is a boss, dude. Watching them fight is like, I'm like, damn, Catherine, in those heels, those big ass platform heels, and you're taking on these two vampires because you're a fucking badass. Like she just is. She is. And uh right in the nick of time, as these things do, they finally get her because Catherine kind of takes the stake and is like pulling it towards Damon, like she's gonna take Damon out, like she's gonna kill Damon.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:43

And then Stefan comes up behind and kind of gets her in like a chokehold, pulls her back, and then Damon's about to stake her, and the nick of time, Jeremy, stop! Because they would have killed her right there. It would have happened. But the nick of time, yeah, as these things do cinematically and televisionally, yeah, uh, right on time, Jeremy.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:02

And he's like, Everything you're doing to her is happening to Elena.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:05

And Kathy just smiles.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:07

So she hurts herself a little bit. She's like, You're not gonna hurt me now. Yep. She's pretty smart though. And she's like, and I have a witch too. And my witch is better than your witch. She's not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

She's not wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:20

Because Bonnie's still new, she's new. She's a baby witch. She's just learned everything. She's like, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:24

She did the baby.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:26

Mm-hmm. But and and you know, she is helping given the fact that she's a baby, she is helping Elena manage her pain. She can't break the spell, but she is helping it hurt less because her friend's obviously in a great deal of pain. And it's nice that she's able to provide some support and relief. Yeah. So, yeah. Now they're actually, instead of trying to kill her in the manic way that was happening a second ago, they're trying to help to stop her from hurting herself to not hurt Elena. So they're like, no, wait, don't hurt yourself. It's very funny little switcheroo that's happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:57

And she knows this the whole time and like doesn't say anything to the boys, obviously. And so they're just fucking going ape shit on her. And she would have, if they staked her, she would have.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:06

If they like, I'm surprised. Like, I'm if they got her in the right spot even without staking her in the heart, if they got her in the kidney, yeah, Elena could have died. Lung, yeah, and she's a human person walking around like a normal mortal. Yep. She's a muggle. She's a mugle. What's she gonna do? Exactly. You know? And then uh meanwhile, Jeremy's trying to get her to wear his ring so that she'll live through those things, and she's like, No, I need I need you to have it, which I can understand.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:31

Uh but yeah. So I get it. I get where she's coming from.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:37

She wants her brother to be safe.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

No, yeah, I would do the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:40

Yeah, so and then uh Catherine, they've calmed down, they're all chilling in the room together because they're trapped together. Yep. And she's like, Well, here we are. The brother that loved me too much, and the one that didn't love me enough. And Damon comes in with the I think I wrote it down and says, um, and and yeah. And an evil slut vampire who only loved herself. And it's hilarious. It's a perfect line. It's a perfect line. It's a very true, pretty much statement. It was yep. I'm like, Slay, Damon, Slay.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:10

Yeah, but I don't disagree. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:15

And yeah, and she's like, what happened to the sweet, polite Damon that I used to know? She's like, yeah, fuck you. He's gone. He's been gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:25

Been dead, gone, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:29

Hello.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:30

Yeah, I mean, because she's not wrong. He was a sweetie little sweet pants when he was a human. He's very different. Like his because Stefan kind of seems similar in past self and self. Like he's still himself. Damon became a lot harder, harder exterior. Like the way he presents himself is like Stefan was definitely more innocent, more like um. Just what's the word I'm thinking of?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:59

Um Naive?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:00

Yeah, I guess, yeah, naive. More naive, more innocent than he is. But he's still like sweetie. Yeah. Damon's not.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:08

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:09

Damon Damon's just you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:11

I think it probably stems from him, probably. I feel like the deep rooted of it all is that he never wanted to be a vampire.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:17

No, but now he loves it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:19

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:24

But um he that she does give that, like, she drops that really iconic part of the show where she's like, Does Elena love that you guys like worship at her altar? Because they do. Because she's like, Yeah, Stefan, your brother's like in love with your girlfriend. So and Stefan's like, I'm not gonna let this go. Oh yeah, no, the con she's just like she's just coming at him with truths.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:46

She's like, here be facts.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:47

Here be facts.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:48

I love her for that. Amen.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:51

Yeah. And and he's and Stefan, meanwhile, he's like, I'm not gonna give in to any of this dumb bullshit that you're trying to do right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:56

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:57

Whether you're dropping facts or not, I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:00

Why do you want the moonstone? What's with the wolf thing that you need? Why do you need a wolf?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:05

What are you fucking up to, bitch? He's still on point. He's still like, I'm staying on this track because I need to know what the fuck is going on. Yeah, I'm with them. I don't care that you want to talk about how Damon loves Elena. That's great. Uh, I'll deal with that in my own time. Why are you fucking here, bitch?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:20

Yeah, bitch. I'm trying to get you the fuck out of here. What is your deal?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:22

Yeah, why do you need a wolf?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:24

And the fucking moonstone. What's the deal?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:26

So he's gonna put the pieces together here because he's a smart boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:29

A nice, smart boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:31

So sweet.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:32

He's the nice. Anyway, so taking a beat from that chaos, we are with Matt and Tyler and Sarah. And they're drinking. And Matt, being compelled to do what he's being compelled to do, takes a picture of the late Mr. Lockwood and starts pouring alcohol on it. Like he wants looks like he wants a drink too. Like blah blah blah. Just totally drunk idiot. Uh uh just trying to start something.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:58

And I will. I will fully back Tyler in this. Like he handled this so well.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:06

Oh, he really did.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:07

Like he was like, I'm not gonna fight you. Drunk, dude. Drunk. Like, stop. Like, I'm not gonna do this with you. Like, he was a mature, like he handled this. I was like, Tyler!

SPEAKER_01 1:28:17

Where's more of that?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:18

Bring this. And he wasn't like cocky, like I can take you. He wasn't like aggressive. He handled it honestly. Like, I was like, this might be my file favorite Tyler moment in all every all the show. Like, I really liked how he handled it because he was being baited. He was being put in a position where he could have acted really badly, and it would make and it would make sense because of the situation you're in. And it wouldn't, I wouldn't have a lot of blame there. But like he handled it so well, and I was really proud of him. This fictional man that was written. Proud of him in that moment.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:49

Even though he tried so hard.

unknown 1:28:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:52

So Caroline hears and she intervenes. She comes in, she's like, what the fuck is going on? She breaks up the fight because they start Matt's like on top of Tyler. Yeah. She pulls him off and then she elbows him in the face to Matt.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:05

And Matt goes down. She's like, oh my God, Matt. And she's so cute. Because she's, you know, she's just fucking strong-armed and like a badass bitch. And she's like, oh my God, I'm so sweet. Yeah. Because she's just so sweet. And Tyler's like, oh my God, what the fuck is going on? Like he's so confused because he still doesn't know anything about vampires either. So he doesn't even know compulsion's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:23

But who's coming in to tell us what's going on?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:26

Well Sarah. So oh yeah. Well, she's behind. She grabs like a letter opener and she's like, if Matt fails, I can't. I'm like, wait aunce it out loud, Sarah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:37

You can't think thoughts in your head. She's she's answered their question.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:41

It was like delivery, it was spoon feeding us this information that I didn't need to be spoken out loud. We would have picked up on it. Okay. We would have picked up on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:49

We would have figured it out if she started attacking Tyler. Thank you. Like it was so fun. I'm like, I'm not an idiot, guys. You don't need Sarah to if Matt.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:57

But some people are, so that's why they give that stupid shit. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:01

It just yeah, it made me feel like the show is ridiculous right now. Because there was just certain lines, you know. Yep. Certain lines really take me out of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:11

But I Petri tries to kill him and Tyler in front of him. Stabs him in the shoulder. Yeah, stabs him in the shoulder and in trying to fight him off, her off. Uh throws her like off of him in self-defense. And she lands wrong and snaps her neck and she dies. And Tyler's now turning into a wolf. Caroline sees his eyes and she's like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:37

And he's like, Yeah, he's like transitioning, not transitioning into an actual wolf, because he's obviously not going to become a wolf in the room because it's not a full moon. Yeah. But he's uh his body is like activating the curse, basically.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:48

And his eyes are glowing gold.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:50

Yeah, and he's just like, This can't happen. Like he's like over Sarah's body, like, oh my god, this can't be happening. Get up, wake up, open your eyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:56

I felt so badly for him.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:58

Yeah, and she's just staring at him, like, oh, this is happening. Because Caroline be knowing. Yeah. She'd be knowing. She'd be in the know. Yep. So that's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:06

Tyler doesn't know that she knows, so.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:08

Nope. Nope. Doesn't know. Nobody knows.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:11

He doesn't even know about vampires.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:13

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:14

So.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:16

He's in the dark.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:17

And then they have like a moment, right, where he's like, what are you? And she's like, What are you? Or like something. Not yet.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:22

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:23

She, in this scene, uh, after that all happens, Carol comes in and they're telling her. And Caroline like kind of says she slipped, she was dancing, and she slipped and fell, and it was an accident. And Carol's like, Oh my god, it was a terrible accident. And I I called her parents. I was like, and then I like felt it. I was like, Oh, her parents. Yeah. I know. And so uh the and then Tyler, when his mom leaves, he's like, Why are you doing this? She's like, I just want to make this terrible situation. Like, you don't need to be having your mom know those facts. Yeah. You know, like it can just be this. And he's like, Why are you doing this? And she's just like, you know, and he's like, Well, you don't know. And she's like, I I do know. He's like, No, you don't know what this means, Caroline. And she's like, I kind of do. How's your wound? Yeah. And he looks down and he's healed, and he's like, How do you know? And then that's that.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:17

That's that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:18

And then there's a face and like a I'm Caroline, and I'm I'm not gonna tell you anything. So yeah, that's kind of how that situation wraps up. Yeah. She's admitting, so Tyler's like, oh, okay, so Caroline, Caroline be knowing something about me.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:33

Catherine's part of that, that part of Catherine's plan succeeded.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:36

It did succeed. And she had backup plans because she's Catherine. She was like, I'm not just leaving it to Matt. I'm gonna have other people here taking care of my business because I'm not gonna leave this to chance. No. And that for good reason. Yeah. Did a good job. So Damon and her and Stefan are trapped still. And Damon's like, Where the fuck is this witch? I want to get the fuck out of here. I want this to be done. Because they're all trapped in this room. And um, Stefan's just sitting there putting things together. He's like, So you bargained the moonstone. That's what you bargained with the Lockwood, George George Lockwood or something. He's putting it together. He's like in the past, because he's like, Okay, you said that they needed something from you in order to go through with the tomb thing. Oh, it was the moonstone. Because I'm smart. Look at my brain. Look at my brain, my hero hair.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:23

Uh gorgeous.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:24

And then Catherine's like, yeah, yeah, I needed people to think I was dead and stuff. It's like, yeah, you faked your death. Who are you running from? Like, what are you running from, Catherine?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:35

Dun dun dun. And and uh and she's like, well, yeah, I needed people to think that. And yeah, Damon, your obsession with me is really inconvenient.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:45

Which is so sad. He's like, Oh, you you mean me loving you? Yes, so funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:48

Sorry about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:50

Yeah. So, and then she just keeps she keep the way that Catherine will just trail off into something else. She's like, Stefan's like sitting there going, Okay, you faked your death. Who are you running from? You bark in the moon saying, Okay, okay, okay. And she's like, You look caught in a suit. I fucking love it. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:06

She knows what's going on. She knows she looked for shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:08

She's like, Yeah, this is fine. You look great. I love you. And she's like, mouths, I love you to him. She's like, I love you.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:14

And he's like, okay. I don't, I'm not rejected.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:18

Not, yeah, like can we fucking back to why you're fucking here, you crazy bitch.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:23

And um, I yeah, she she gets oh god, it's so fucking funny. I can't. Okay, I'm sorry. Okay. Anyway, I'm not gonna spoil anything, but I'm gonna stop myself. I just love Catherine. I think it's really funny. And she does say that she kept up with him over the years. Yeah. Um because oh yeah, she brings up a Bon Jovi concert. She's like, Yeah, it was I can't remember the year. I think it was probably the 80s. When was Bon Jovi? Was it the 80s? Yeah, I think it's probably the 80s. Yeah. And and she's like, Oh, don't be surprised I kept up on you, and and you were dancing to Bon Jovi, and you were with Lexi, and I was you were watching Bon Jovi and I was watching you. He's like, Okay, okay, yeah, you were okay. That's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:11

Anyways. So this moonstone again. What's the deal though?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:17

And I'm I mean, I get it. Catherine's same, but you're not playing it. Like I said earlier this evening, girl. Yeah, how is any of this the plan to win this man back? Yeah. It's not. It's not the plan. It's not the man. To win his heart, you're gonna have to be a way better person.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:35

I think she's given up on it, honestly. Probably.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:38

She's just like, I love you. I loved it. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:40

That's why I think she's just playing with him. Like she's having fun with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:43

Yeah.

unknown 1:35:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:44

I think she does want him back. I think she does. She probably does, but she does. She has to deal with this other situation first. The moonstone situation is priority number.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:52

Well, I think she does want him back. I just think she also knows it's never gonna happen. So like she's just playing with him. Because she does love him. So she's just like, I'm just keeping telling you that I love you. I know you're not gonna love me, but I'm just gonna keep telling you.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:02

I'm here, just so you know, I'm here.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:03

I think that's the whole gate.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:05

Oh my god, and he and poor Damon's just sitting there like, so I loved you 145 years, and you're just talking about how you would keep up on Stefan, but not me, as I pined for you that whole time and waited to be able to free you from what I thought was torment, but really you did it on purpose, and you think me loving you was inconvenient. This is so cool. Anyway, where's the witch? Yep. Yeah, so that's fun for Damon.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:23

I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:23

It's not really sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:25

It's really sad. Poor Damon.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:27

So sad. Uh so Bonnie finds Lucy speaking of the witches, and uh, she's pretty much they have like a little, you know, conversation, and she touches her and like she's like, I think, or something. She's like, Do you feel that? Like Lucy's like, Do you feel that? You can trust me.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:45

And Bonnie's like, I can trust you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:47

With the feeling I'm feeling is trust. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:51

Yeah, which is a witchy thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:55

Yeah, and they're like, I don't want to hurt you, I don't want to hurt you, and they have this like ridiculous moment. Yeah, I'm like, okay, witchy moment.

unknown 1:37:02

Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:03

Um, but basically she says Catherine, she calls her bitch now. Okay, so we're evolving the Lucy Catherine friendship in a confusing way that confuses me.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:12

It takes a lot of turns.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:13

Yeah, because she's like, This bitch saved my life, so I owe her.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:15

And I'm like, okay, so you this like, yeah, I don't I actually don't fuck with vampires, and that's the only reason why I'm here is because I fucking owe this bitch and she's a fucking stupid bitch vampire.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:24

She's a stupid bitch. And like 20 minutes ago in this episode, and we're like, I love you, oh my god, girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:28

Oh, because she's scared of her.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:30

Yeah, I guess. Jesus, like, I don't understand. Their relationship is so confusing, it's like whooplash. Uh, but she anyway, Bonnie gives her the moonstone.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:38

Sure does.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:39

She's just like, I can trust you. I feel that vibe. I'm this is trust. That's a big leap of faith that that Bonnie took.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:49

She went from I know no one to I trust you.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:52

Yeah, to I know no one. You can trust me. Uh Damon's having a drink, and Catherine's like, oh my god, I want one. And Damon pours her one. He's like, Okay, Miss Catherine, and like the hard little moment. And she's like, We're missing the party. And I'm like, oh my god, I love this. I love Catherine's energy sometimes. You know, she's an evil bitch, but she's fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:13

She's fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:14

She would be she would be a good time if she wasn't trying to kill people.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:17

Absolutely, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:18

She would be fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:19

So I like her.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:21

Yeah. Anyway, he uh Damon decides to take it upon himself to go and pin her against a wall and go to stake her. And Stefan comes in and holds his arm back and he's like, whoa, and he's like this, and then Damon says, as soon as this link is broken, I'm gonna stake you through the heart.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:40

Just like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:41

Um would he have staked her if Stefan didn't intervene? I don't think Catherine would have let it happen. I think she would have easily gotten herself out of that situation. Uh but I mean the fact that he pinned her and threatened her knowing he's she's linked to Elena. I'm like, who's the better boyfriend? I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm looking around the room. I'm looking around the room. Uh who here would never in a million years Okay. Just checking.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:17

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:18

Just checking. I love Seven. Uh, but he stops that from happening, obviously. But and then and then they have this whole moment. I'm gonna stake you as soon as the link is broken. Do we?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:30

Do we?

SPEAKER_05 1:39:31

Okay, I'm fine. Everybody's fine. Anyway, the witch comes in.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:37

Um here's this enter witch.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:40

Free to leave, spell's broken, you can go now. And they're like, Great, we can leave this room.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:45

And then um, she's like talking to Catherine, like, okay, I have this moonstone. As soon as I hand this over, our deal's good, we're good. We're even, we're fine. And then just Catherine's like, yeah, whatever. And then Stefan and Dimmer are like, don't give it to her. And she's like, We're good. Okay. And then she hands the moonstone to Catherine, and Catherine starts like choking and like falls down to the ground and is essentially like blacked out. And she's like, You should have told me another witch was involved. Uh fuck you, bitch, basically. Like, work here is done. Yeah. And then she apologizes for her involvement with everything to the guys, and they're just staring at her, Moonstone, her floor, and they're like, okay. And um, that's all we get to see of that moment. But but she does and she does announce because they do freak out, Stefan does freak out. He's like, Whoa, she's choking Elena, and he's she's like, No, link's broken, she's fine. Because Stefan checked to make sure that Elena is fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:36

Sweet angel.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:37

Because he's sweet angel is never gonna do anything wrong. Because I'm an apologist.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:40

Is that when they have that like moment about like you can trust me? Is that because is that when they told her that they're like four cousins twice removed on your mom's side type thing?

SPEAKER_05 1:40:49

That's later, that's when they're leaving, yeah. That's happening basically. We uh when when Lucy's leaving, Bonnie approaches her and he's like, she's like, How could I trust you? She's like, Well, yeah, and they talk about how they're like distant relatives essentially. And she's like, I gotta get I gotta stop letting vampires control me, and da-da-da. And and Bonnie's like, I don't want this life, I don't want them to control me, I don't want this for me. And um uh Lucy's like, you know, you need to be right in the middle of it. You're a good one, you're one of the good ones. I'm like, so you want her to fight vampire battles? Yep. Maybe because she'll be doing it for like she'll be working for the good ones, not the bad ones, like whereas Lucy is clearly helping a bad vampire. Yeah, being Catherine, I guess, is what I would put together in that whole thing. But she's like, you'll see me again. Spoiler alert, we never see her again. Nope, never see her again. So that was some storyline that they had planned for that character never came to fruition.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:44

Nope. See you later, alligator. Thanks, Lucy. She was just here to advance the plot. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:52

Yep. Never talked about again. Isn't that fun? Never never. Yeah, and then Jeremy comes up to Bonnie after Lucy leaves, and he's like, Hey, I'm gonna head home and I'm gonna drive. And Bonnie's like, When'd you get your license? And I think it's funny to me because she looks at him like he's so little that she doesn't register that like he can do things like she can because to her he's smaller than he actually is. Which, like I've said, I've done that with people's little brothers and little sisters. Like I've been like, You're not that much younger than me, but when you're at that gap of age where it's like I'm 16, you're 15, but you feel when you're friends with the sibling, they're like the little one. Yeah, you write them off as little.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:34

Oh, I get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:35

And it also sets you up to be like, like, there's certain things where you're just like, ew, younger brother, even if they're the same age. Oh, younger brother. Ugh.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:43

You know, so for her, it's just like, wait a minute. Like, she's kind of registering, he's flirting a little, and he's handsome, and she's probably kind of like, oh shit. Yeah. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:53

Something's sparking there. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:55

But yeah, there's a spark in there. Yeah, but she does accept the ride. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:00

The sparks are flying.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:01

Because we're having moments. Moments are happening. Moments. Anyway, I think there's the scene from she's the man at the end with the I feel like it's the same location. Yeah. But Elena's standing up there by herself, like holding herself in like a jacket and like a good thing, and staring off. And Stefan runs up and he's just like, Elena, and she's like, I'm okay, I'm okay. And he's just like, I was so worried. She's like, Yeah, we can't be together though. And he's like, So this didn't change anything for you then? Yep. Like Catherine's being gone. Because she's like, Catherine's gone. And he's like, Yeah, she is. So we're assuming she was staked, but yeah. Anyway. Um, so uh so assuming she's staked. Yeah, but she's she's like the doctor, you know, he he wants her to go see the doctor, he wants to make sure she's okay. Yeah, she's fine. Catherine, not Catherine, Bonnie helped her feel a little less pain, but yeah, she's basically saying, like, I need to feel safe when I go to bed and I need to know my family and friends are safe, and I just like can't be with you because of it. And I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:02

Bullshit. Bullshit.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:04

I mean, like, I'm sure someone maybe could explain it to me in a way that would make more sense, but like for me, I'm I I I don't think being with I just don't think being with Stefan is gonna cause more grief if Catherine's gone, because there was no grief to be had. Your best friend currently is now vampire. I get if the if he was the only vampire in your life and you kicked him out to be like, I don't want any vampire business in my life, okay. Catherine's gone, you don't want okay. Right. But now your best friend. You're in it now. You're in it anyway. Yep. So, and then your other friend got turned into a wolf tonight. Yep. So, like, you're not like escaping the supernatural world on any capacity at this point. So, why is being with Stefan going to cause more harm? I didn't really understand that. I understand if Catherine's still around, but I just like I barely do because I would want to be with Stefan anyway, but like I do get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:52

Well, in a stupid bitch. Stupid, stupid bitch. I don't agree with this. This is bad writing. I disagree.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:58

Yeah, she's like, Do you understand? He's like, Yeah, because he's just supportive. He's just like, all right, that's what you want. I'm gonna support your decisions and what you want to do here, you know, because he's awesome. But yeah, I just don't I I don't understand how being with him would cause you to feel less safe. I don't because you're in it now. If, like I said, if evacuating him got rid of the vampires, sure, but it doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:19

I would feel if anything, 7,000 million times percent more safe. Well, yeah, he's gonna keep you safe because he's exactly and if he's around me by proxy, the people around me are gonna be safe.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:31

Like the tomb situation's taken care of. Yep. Catherine's taken care of. Check. So what the fuck's the problem, stupid vigilina? What in your mind is causing you to think She's stupid Vigilina. Well, I know that okay. I'm putting this together as I'm talking, I'm talking it out loud. This is how I talk through my thoughts. Uh okay, so Oh, I'm sorry. Cat I have one right here. So Catherine is there for a reason. She's trying to collect a werewolf, and she turned to Caroline and she's trying to get the moonstone. So she's like they I guess she understands there is something going on that Catherine was there for. So she's like, is more gonna happen because of it? But like that has nothing to do with you and Stephanie. So still I don't know. Anyway, so we're seeing now we know where Catherine is. She's in the tomb where she should have been for 145 years. So they feel like maybe that's some poetic justice, I guess. Damon's putting her in there and she's got the moonstone. I don't know why they would leave her with that. Why wouldn't you take that? Why would you leave her with the moonstone? I don't know, keep it all together, get rid of it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:29

Um destroy it? Something.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:31

I don't know, or yeah, like why wouldn't you want to keep your hands on it to know what I don't know anyway?

SPEAKER_01 1:46:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:36

Um so she's in there and she's like, No, you need me, you need me. Elaine's in danger. And Damon pauses before he closes the door to the tomb. He's like, What do you mean? And um, she's like, She's the doppelganger, she needs to be protected. I haven't killed her, why do you think I haven't done that? And he's like, Well, I'll protect her. And she's like, No, you need me, and she's like freaking out because she doesn't want to be put in the tomb. Which I don't know. She has like a full breakdown. Full breakdown. Don't blame her.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:04

She gets she deserves it though.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:06

No, a hundred percent. And she it is poetic justice, her being there. That's where she should have been this whole fucking time. Yep. So that's where you belong, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:14

No, no, no, sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:16

But it we get reveals that there's now there's a new aspect to this, something about a doppelganger. So we have a werewolf, a moonstone, a doppelganger. What the fuck's going on?

SPEAKER_05 1:47:26

Yeah, what are we what are we collecting here?

SPEAKER_01 1:47:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:28

And she wants Elena alive. Yeah. We do know that. So Damon is like, all right, I'm gonna shut you in here. Goodbye. And um, so they didn't kill her, they left her in the tomb. And then we have Elena walking to the car, she's on the phone with Bonnie, and Bonnie's saying she's gonna get a ride from Jeremy, and Elena's like, that's fine, I'm just gonna go to bed. I'm just gonna go straight to bed. So don't even worry about me. Don't even think about me. Don't even think where is Elena because I'm just going to bed. Because um, behind her, a man in a mask abducts her. She's taken. Yep. Elena's been taken.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:57

Sure has.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:58

So that's happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:00

That's the end of the episode, you guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:01

It is. That is the end of the episode. It ends on a clip hanging over. It's so fun and the A lot's happening. I don't know, the masquerade party is really fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:10

Costumes, the masks, even though it's very cringe, some of the dresses, but like the masks and stuff are are all fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:18

I really liked it. What was your favorite and least favorite?

SPEAKER_05 1:48:21

Uh, the Elena being connected to Catherine sequence of her getting hurt while they were fighting. That whole dynamic was my favorite part. Yeah. Oh yeah. And my least favorite part was either Jeremy talking about the sex spells or Amy dying.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:36

What about you? Um, my favorite is also that sequence, that whole fun shenanigans that's happening. Shenanigans. Um, love that. Um and then least favorite. Probably the whole Tyler thing really bothers. Like just the whole like how he like just how it happened. Like how she how he killed her on accident, that really bothers me. It makes me so sad for him because Oh, yeah, now he's a werewolf. His biggest fear now he's a werewolf.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:04

So quickly, he just learned about wolves.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:06

I mean, it's obviously just fucking learned about he did it and then something starts happening. He's like, what the fuck's going on?

SPEAKER_05 1:49:11

That's what happened to Mason, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:13

Uh, but yeah, no, like that's um it's like I just learned two episodes ago that I had to kill someone in order for this to happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:26

And now I've done that.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:28

What it's so quickly. It was orchestrated to happen to him.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:31

So it was because of Mason being gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:33

Yeah, but yeah, that's probably my least favorite.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:37

Yeah, it's sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:38

Bummer.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:39

Name count.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:40

Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:40

All right, I want you to guess. I want you to guess. At last time, Steph we have 185 Stefans and ninety-three Damons as of last episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:50

Okay, I think we're at for Stefan, I'm gonna say one ninety four higher or lower? Lower. 190.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:01

Higher.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:01

192.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:02

Lower.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:03

191.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:04

Yes, 191. We got six Stephans in this episode. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:07

She said it six times. Uh I'm gonna go five daemons. Four daemons. Six Damons? Less.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:15

Less.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:15

Two daemons. Less. No daemons. No daemons.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:19

We're still at 93 daemons. We didn't get a single daemon out of Elena.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:22

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:23

Just a ton of Stefan and Damons out of Catherine, but I couldn't count those.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:26

Yeah, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:27

But Elena wasn't in this episode that much, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:29

That's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:29

But we still managed to get six Stefans. So we are at 191 and 93. So we need nine more Stephans to get to 200 and seven more daemons to get to 100.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:40

I wonder if we'll hit it next episode, you guys. I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:43

Stay tuned if you're stay tuned to catch up on how many times she sang these boys' names less than us now. The amount of times we would talk shit. And now we've just overcome. We have skyrocketed.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:54

Everybody loves it. It's fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:56

Well, as always, you guys, thanks for listening. Sorry, this is a little bit of a longer episode. We got a lot of certain times.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:01

Really tangented today.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:03

It is it is what it is, you guys. You're here for us. I hope so.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:06

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SPEAKER_01 1:51:12

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SPEAKER_05 1:51:55

The poll that I posted that had a few votes for Masquerade, they also had an equal amount of votes for Klaus. So we'll be going live to watch Klaus, which makes sense for us considering. We're going to just be freaking out, basically.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:10

Yeah, it's just going to be a lot of just like us looking at him in awe. So tune in for that. We'll let you know. But for to let to know when that's happening, you have to follow us on Instagram and TikTok, you guys, and we'll let you know there.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:25

Um, but as always, we love you guys, and we're gonna see you guys next week for episode eight. Woo!

SPEAKER_05 1:52:30

Rose.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:31

It's called Rose.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:33

Oh, about Rose?

SPEAKER_05 1:52:36

She's in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:37

Yeah. Pretty sure it's called Rose. Oh my god, could you imagine I was wrong? I'd be embarrassed. Embarrassed for me. All right, you guys. Thank you. Bye.